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Is this a pure breed litter or no?

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NobodyHere

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You suddenly decided you need to have an American Bulldog (and even then I thought you said you wanted a Scott type dog?!), rushed out and found the first litter for sale, and now you're asking us if they're purebred? If you did even a fraction of the research on the breed that you should be doing, you'd know what legitimate registries accept the breed where you live, and if you did a fraction of the research on the breeder(s) you're potentially interested in buying a dog from, you'd know if their dogs were registered or not and with which registry or registries, among other important information. Please DO NOT rush out and impulse-purchase an AB.
 
You say for one more time that is too "bad" for me to take a puppy of this breed because im novice owner. I can understand your concern but would you recommend me taking a dog that i dont like only for its being good with novice owners?

i asked the breeder and said that dogs have papers and are registered, but im not an expert! Thats why im asking!

one more time , i like dog breeds like bull terrier , staffordahire terrier, bulldog, boxer , amstaff etc. so im searching for such dog even if im unexperienced!
 
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NobodyHere

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You say for one more time that is too "bad" for me to take a puppy of this breed because im novice owner. I can understand your concern but would you recommend me taking a dog that i dont like only for its being good with novice owners?

i asked the breeder and said that dogs have papers and are registered, but im not an expert! Thats why im asking!

one more time , i like dog breeds like bull terrier , staffordahire terrier, bulldog, boxer , amstaff etc. so im searching for such dog even if im unexperienced!

I don't give a shit what breeds you LIKE, at least have the intelligence to do RESEARCH on the fucking breed before you rush out and get a puppy. My concern with you getting an AB or another bull breed isn't ALL due to you being a novice owner, it has a lot to do with the fact that you want INSTANT gratification rather than making the effort you should be making. You suddenly decided you wanted an AB all of a WEEK ago, after going through ASTs, and Chows, and a variety of other breeds with completely opposite sizes, temperaments, coats, and just about everything else. That's NOT enough time to have researched the breed as thoroughly as you should be, but you decided to disregard that step entirely and move right onto finding puppies.
 
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You are wrong in that part im making everyday research about breeds , i read a lot, and learn a lot of things about the breeds temperament. Thats the reason i declined the chow's they are not going with me.

All of the other breeds im looking for can live in a house and the differences are in size and excercise needs, stuborn behavior too! Other things are pretty much the same like they are all short coat!
 
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NobodyHere

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You are wrong in that part im making everyday research about breeds , i read a lot, and learn a lot of things about the breeds temperament.

How many American Bulldogs have you met and spent any time with at all in real life before deciding all of a week ago that you had to have one? After saying you didn't want a large dog, you didn't want a guard dog, you didn't want a dog that drools. Then you wanted a Scott/standard type AB... The Johnson/classic type ABs in the photos on this thread are literally exactly the fucking opposite of everything you've been saying you wanted or didn't want!

Do you know anything at all about the pedigrees of either of those dogs? Do you know what health issues are in those lines and what has been tested for? What about temperaments (NOT just the temperament of the parents)?
 
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NobodyHere

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Just looking at the photos of the sire of that litter, if that dog isn't VERY heavily linebred on King Caleb, I'll eat my own shirt. And there are more than enough health and temperament issues coming down off that dog and some of his more well known offspring thanks to the BYBs that let it slide in order to produce what they consider to be "impressive" dogs.
 

ruffiangirl

Little Dog
If you can not trust the 'breeder' when he says they are purebred then run, dont walk away, why would you want a puppy from someone you cant trust?
 

ETRaven

Little Dog
OP: I've asked you this before but haven't gotten an answer. Why not look for an older (preferred breed here) dog in rescue or possibly find a reputable breeder rehome?
 

BCdogs

Good Dog
Super Moderator
You say you've done research on the breed (which I find hardly adequate after maybe a week since deciding which breed you even want), but you clearly haven't done any research on ethical breeders.

If you go out and choose the first cute littler of puppies you find, you're most likely going to end up with a poorly bred dog. You're also just going to be supporting a shit BYB that's in it for the money and not the dogs.

There are plenty of threads around here that can help you determine whether or not a breeder is ethical, please use the search function.

While you're already ahead of most people by actually doing SOME research, in my humble opinion, you have a lot more to do before even thinking of buying a dog.

Please listen to the advice you're given by these knowledgeable members or you may end up with a dog that is not right for you, and that's not fair to you OR the dog.
 

Pitbullmom1

Big Dog
I agree with BC from experience I went out did no research and my pup has some health problems and hospital bills. He was obviously poorly bred but he's my responsibility now and I'm willing to take care of his issues, just be ready for vet bills there expensive.
 

ETRaven

Little Dog
^^^I'm worried that OP is putting looks, drool factor and size over a lot of more important factors when it comes to owning a dog. Save breeder research.

I think a novice can own a bull/working breed but it takes loads of work. So, in no way am I bashing novices, we were all novices at one time.

OP, I'm not trying to sound condescending at all, but slow down and concentrate on one breed at a time. It's hard to follow you as you're kind of all over the board with this...you want a guard dog, now you don't want a guard dog, you like scott type ABs but are looking in the opposite direction, you wanted a short-coated dog, but were interested in chows.

Pin down the things you want and do not want in a breed. Don't let looks or size or drool factor be a thought at this point. Once you gather your list of must haves and can't haves, start cross referencing breeds with those lists. If the dog is more on the "con" side than "pro" side, sorry, don't care how bad ass the dog looks, he's out of the running.

Then, once you have a few dog breeds narrowed down...GO OUT AND MEET DOGS OF THAT BREED. Hit sporting events, shows, breed rescue events, you name it.

Then, you will comfortably and confidently be able to pick "your breed" and more importantly, the odds will be stacked in your favor to succeed.
 

ruffiangirl

Little Dog
Putting drool and size over everything, but then totallly disregarding it when puppies are in front of him.

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robertosilva

Little Dog
Not a big fan of those heavy set bulky American Bull dogs, looks like a walking vet bill that will constantly be trying to catch it's breath.

Have you any local rescues that you can volunteer to dog walk? You will get to meet tons of bull breeds and get an idea of what you're getting yourself into.
American Bulldogs vary so much in size and temperament some can be very full on and a real handful.

At least try and meet a few American Bulldogs first. Personally I think a Staffordshire Bull Terrier would be much more manageable if your dead set on a Bull breed.
 
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You suddenly decided you need to have an American Bulldog (and even then I thought you said you wanted a Scott type dog?!), rushed out and found the first litter for sale, and now you're asking us if they're purebred? If you did even a fraction of the research on the breed that you should be doing, you'd know what legitimate registries accept the breed where you live, and if you did a fraction of the research on the breeder(s) you're potentially interested in buying a dog from, you'd know if their dogs were registered or not and with which registry or registries, among other important information. Please DO NOT rush out and impulse-purchase an AB.
No need to be rude! with all the so called "breeders" out there it's hard for someone who don't know the difference on what's true papered and what's not. Maybe he's done all the research he needed to have a bully breed but not sure I'd it's a legitimate pure bred litter. All I've seen of your posts is rude and out of line commenting. Give them a freaking break!

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_unoriginal

Cow Dog
No need to be rude! with all the so called "breeders" out there it's hard for someone who don't know the difference on what's true papered and what's not. Maybe he's done all the research he needed to have a bully breed but not sure I'd it's a legitimate pure bred litter. All I've seen of your posts is rude and out of line commenting. Give them a freaking break!

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He hasn't. You're new here so you missed some of the OP's previous threads.
 
But either way he's asking advice from people who know more about breeding then he does. There are other ways to word things then coming off like that.

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_unoriginal

Cow Dog
Stick around long enough and you may find that SS is one of our most knowledgable members. He may not sugarcoat the truth and even be a bit abrasive at times but we all appreciate his input.

If you don't like the way a thread is handled, you can report it, you can post in "contact the staff" or you can simply ignore it.

Btw, you're taking a tone with SS' post that really isn't there. Don't create an issue that doesn't exist. SS has actually been nicest to the OP of most members.
 

catchrcall

Good Dog
Staff member
No way on earth would I get a pup off that sire. He is in no way anything that an American bulldog should be, or at least not anything I'd look for. He's short nosed even for a Johnson type dog, I don't care for his shoulders, and something about the whole head is just "off". He says more American Bully than American Bulldog to me, even though he probably is all Bulldog. An American bulldog should be athletic, even the Johnson types, and I don't think that dude can get out of his own way. Think about an animal that should be catching hogs, or helping out around a farm someplace. That's not it. I'd pass on this litter (especially if you are looking for a Scott or "performance" type dog, for sure. Take your time, and if a bulldog is what you want and what fits you then at least get one that looks, and hopefully acts the part.
 

ruffiangirl

Little Dog
This is the only type of American Bulldog we have up here, no one wants anything athletic, they want the biggest and baddest looking, so heartbreaking.
 
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