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inbred dogs bad or good

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by lonizzle22, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. lonizzle22

    lonizzle22 Puppy

    i have a male that is inbred turtlebuster jeep and i have ben hearing alot of things about inbred dogs like that they are untrainable they arent really game they are crazy i dunno let me know what you think
     
  2. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Most purebred dogs are inbred.

    If done correctly, inbreeding is fine.

    If done wrong, it can be really bad.

    That is why culling is very important.
     
  3. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    i see absolutely no reason whatsoever to have a pet dog that is tightly inbred.....

    inbreeding is a breeding tool that should be used correctly.....what specific traits did the dog that was inbred on have that will make your dog a better pet dog ?

    if its a working dog fair enough thats a whole different ball game....

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    i disagree.....most purebred dogs are very very distantly line bred.....almost to the point where they share very little genetic inheritance at all
     
  4. lonizzle22

    lonizzle22 Puppy

  5. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I stand corrected. I didn't explain myself quite clearly. Thank you for pointing that out, Mr. Clueless. What I mean is at some point in every pedigree there is going to be some amount of inbreeding that has been done in a purebred dog. Not that every single breeding is a inbreeding. As Mr. Clueless pointed out, many times it will be linebred, and at other times, there is a cross or even scatterbred.
     
  6. Patch O' Pits

    Patch O' Pits Good Dog

    Being inbred can double up on the best of the best and the worst of the worst traits in a bloodline. It depends on how the genes align to if the pup is going to have issues or not down the road or even right from the door.

    I wouldn't panic over it. just be aware that there could be issues. That is not to say there has to or will be.

    Genetics is not an exact science with things like that.

    What were the parents like and what is the line like behind the dog?

    Was this a reputable breeder or a BYB?

    Those are some things that will be of help when looking at the big picture with your dog.

    How old is the pup now? How are things going so far?

    What is the structure and temperament like?
     
  7. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Also, wanted to point that another thing, I guess I wasn't clear on. I am not saying that one should constantly just inbreed. However, if one does an inbreeding, there is a right way to go about it and there is wrong way. So, if the breeder went about it the right way, then it will be fine. If they didn't, then it could be really bad.
     
  8. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    it really depends on how the dogs are bred....its worth remembering that an inbred mating of 2 completely scatterbred dogs will result in pups that are practically unrelated genetically.....yes they are inbred but due to the way genetics works there will still be great variance in an inbred litter from scatterbred dogs and very little shared inheritance
    selection is everything when inbreeding and its not for beginners in my opinion.
     
  9. ~D~

    ~D~ Puppy

    I do not think there is any animal today that is sound enough to inbreed. With all the pollution, chemicals, and pesticides in the world they DNA is already screwed up.

    Plus bad traits are easier to pass along than the good traits. Look at kings and queens that use to inbreed to keep a pure blood line most ended up with big noses and chins they started looking wierd :eek:.
     
  10. Thomas

    Thomas Little Dog

    Human genetics and canine genetics are not really comparable...
     
  11. ~D~

    ~D~ Puppy

    May not be but I use to breed show rabbits and again bad traits are easier to pass along than the good traits in rabbits so I was thinking that bad traits are easier to pass along than the good traits in people and rabbits IMO it would be the same in all animals. Besides with all the pollution, chemicals, and pesticides in the world screwing up all DNA why risk it?
     
  12. milew66623

    milew66623 Big Dog

    Well, the kennel you got them from is one I have heard of before and in ohio. Never heard anything bad about them, and are known to have really tight bred turtlebuster dogs. One of the members on here is friends with them. So it seems they are not novices at breeding. I do nto know them personally but from what have heard they are reputable.
     
  13. Budboy88

    Budboy88 Good Dog

    you obviously need to stick to rabbits

    as long as you cull inbreeding and linebreeding will produce the best dogs you will ever get as long as its done by someone who knows what they are doing

    tight is right ;)
     
  14. ~D~

    ~D~ Puppy

    AGAIN my main point is with all the pollution, chemicals, and pesticides in the world screwing up all DNA why risk it? I sure hope you Do not treat your dogs with PESTICIDES, Do not dip them in chemicals, or Do not spray your yard with CHEMICALS it will screw up there DNA PERIOD. That is my main point not rabbits or humans.
     
  15. Budboy88

    Budboy88 Good Dog

    as a responsible dog owner yes i do use chemicals (wormers, flea preventives, etc)
     
  16. ~D~

    ~D~ Puppy

    There is all natural worm treatments as well as flea and tick preventives, etc. I use all organic safe treatments on all my pets. If you can not eat it do not use it :). You pets and your own body will love you for it. I deal with too many chemically injured animals and people.
     
  17. milew66623

    milew66623 Big Dog

    Oh god, well I can eat shit, but I choose not too. Organic this organic that, come on ~D~ Animals are not people, kings, or queens, why treat them as such. I don't eat or use anything organic, never have on any of my dogs and they have all lived long heathy lives. My last dog ate pedigree daily and lived 14 years...do you use organic vaccines?
     
  18. ~D~

    ~D~ Puppy

    I do not believe in vaccines for people or dogs. However before I get beat up by everyone. I can cure parvo and all illness with herbs. I am an eastern medical doctor I do not believe in western medicine. I do wish you well and I am happy you and your pets have no illnesses. Also I am glad you don't eat shit.
     
  19. Budboy88

    Budboy88 Good Dog

    someone who doesnt vaccinate her dogs is giving medical and breeding advice this is just great
     
  20. jeepfreak

    jeepfreak Banned

    most of the best a.p.b.t in the world are inbred and/or very tight inbred ,

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    if you knew anything , their is no CURE for parvo !! it just takes it coarse & some dogs live others dont !!! ....herbs ????
     
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