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if your dog is a rescue and after several years you found the original owner...

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by indelibledotink, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. SweetPerks24

    SweetPerks24 Big Dog

    Nope. Both ours are rescues, but the people they came from don't deserve to own any animals, I wouldn't even consider it at all. They've both been here with us for a long time now, and were rescued as puppies, I doubt they'd even remember their original owners, in fact, I actually hope they don't remember them at all, they didn't come from good situations.
     
  2. ownedbyBOO

    ownedbyBOO Little Dog

    About a year and a half ago, a huge devistating tornado ripped a band across northern Kentucky. It was a breezy beautiful day. I was on the porch with Boo and suddenly it started snowing. Snowing when it was not cold. I was on the phone with a friend and she didn't believe me. So I hung up and took a picture of the snow on my trampoline. I called her back, and was all dumbfounded because it was teeny bits of what I now think is drywall. I was stunned into stupidity. Suddenly Boo went crazy. I seriously walked around the house to see what was going on and I saw it. Words cannot even begin to describe what an F5 looks like. I unclipped her and ran for the basement. Thank god she followed. The tornado went 2 miles south of my house. Peach grove ky is gone. Gone. What if boo had ran away??? I would have still gone to the basement.

    After a while I went outside and even the debris was gone. It we a beautiful sunny late winter day. A dog ran by on 3 legs. I was so stunned and confused. No power, total silence and then I heard police sirens and my phone went crazy. That's how I found out what had happened. I was told to leave and put Boo in the car and left. No hotel would take us. Boo was reactive to everything, my eardrum was leaking blood. I slept in my brothers camper because Boo we not safe for anyone but me to be near.


    I went home the next day and was just in shock. I have a generator and I believe I was posting on here some about what to do with Boo.

    So many dogs were lost. So many dogs were found. They were all spooked. We put bags of food out where my friends house used to be. She as not home and her shi tzu was never found.

    What if Boo had ran. What if someone found her a year later.
     
  3. ownedbyBOO

    ownedbyBOO Little Dog

    You can YouTube the tornado. March 2 2012. Piner, crittenden, peach grove all in KY. Moscow Ohio.

    I did not hear a tornado siren. I did not have the tv on. I had no warning.
    Neither did many of the people who lost their animals.

    Do you have any idea what night is like when in the silence you hear cattle screaming in agony and then hear a gunshot? There was a stockyard hit and cows were dropped for miles. Many still alive and mutilated. The men walked the hills for days and shot them.

    Cn you imagine how far a dog could go?? And what if its found. The original owners are now lost somewhere trying to find a place to stay. How long do you keep the dog. What if 6 months later this horribly thin, scarred up abused looking dog shows up at your place. You feed it, get it to a vet, heal its mind. You bond. But a month later you discover a family who lost them last year??
     
  4. E Diggy

    E Diggy Big Dog

    Ok, but let's say this dog that prefers the new owners is as it turns out a champion blood line dog worth big money? Would you be prepared to financially compensate the original owners? Feelings or not, the dog is still someone else's rightful property.
     
  5. indelibledotink

    indelibledotink Little Dog

    if it were within my means, then yes, i'd compensate them if i grew to love the dog. for sure.
     
  6. keagan

    keagan Little Dog

    Supposing this were the case and you did give the dog back, would they be obligated to compensate you for all the money you had put into the dog since you had had it? After all, if they were collecting the dog from animal control, they would be liable for all the associated fees. Seems like it could be a wash situation, to me, depending on how long the dog had been in the care of the new owners, and any special medical care provided, etc. And if the dog remained the property of the original owner, then that owner would be obligated to reimburse for the costs associated to keeping the dog alive and healthy in the time it was in someone else's care.
     
  7. Cian

    Cian Little Dog

    It would depend on the situation, but I would say that in most cases - short of a rescue after a natural disaster or kidnapping, where the animal had been involuntarily lost - that answer would be a resounding NO WAY.

    In the case of my current dog, Cian is a rescue. He was dumped at a shelter as a young pup by his previous owner when he contracted parvo because she couldn't pay for his vet care. This person not only couldn't care for him when he was sick, but didn't take him to a vet to get his puppy vaccs which would have prevented him from getting parvo in the first place. He came very close to dying. If you can't afford a dog, don't have one. I'd never give him back to her.
     
  8. Kit

    Kit Good Dog

    Rosie was abandoned on the streets at 3 months. No history of previous owners. She's now 8 yrs old. NO WAY is she going anywhere...not that she would want to leave anyway.
    Frankie was abandoned at 6 weeks old. Again, no history of previous owners. I am in contact with her foster mom who had her for a couple weeks. Her foster mom is thrilled where she ended up. Frankie is going no where.
    Nick was left at a vet clinic, at 2 years old, when his previous owners left the country. I *THINK* they may have been in the military, but that story isn't real clear. IF his previous owners showed up, I think we'd let them visit with Nick, and see his reaction before making any decision. But DH would NOT want to give him up, and I really doubt Nick would leave us. We've had him almost 5 years now.
     
  9. ownedbyBOO

    ownedbyBOO Little Dog

    I did do tons of detective work and after months of work and dead ends I tracked down Boos original owners. At first they were furious and wanted her back when they realized they had been lied to and the "wonderful guy" they homed her too was continuing to lie to them. He even sent them pictures I had posted of her on my Facebook.

    After they calmed down a bit and found out she is now in a good home, they agreed it turned out OK. We still keep in touch and we have an understanding that I am boos owner, they are not. However, they still like updates and to know she is OK.
     
  10. Swolf

    Swolf Little Dog

    I got a hound mutt from the local animal shelter that I named Stark. The only information given to the shelter on a dog estimated to be about two or three years old was the owners had "nowhere to put him" and that his name was "Trapstar." This boy was shy as heck, but I kept coming to visit him, and on the third trip when he was running from the leash (still not sure if he didn't want to go back in or was afraid of the leash) and sat in my lap I was in love.
    He had no shot record, wasn't fixed, had a stupid drug related name (I had to google it when I got home, I knew it meant something dang it), they couldn't even give any information to the shelter to help him find a good home, and later on I found he was horribly afraid of the weirdest items (my guess was not enough stimulation at a young age, average fears of things like plastic bags that a dog his age should have been use to). That's not horrible as far as many animals go, but screw them I wouldn't give them a hamster.

    Sookie was found on the highway up in Virginia, chased her near the mall exit during five-o-clock traffic. I attempted to find her owner with signs, news paper ads, craigslist ads, logged found dog reports at every shelter within an hour's drive, and had her scanned for a microchip... Nothing. About the only thing I got was a blocked number calling two or three times apparently having seen the Craigslist ad and describing different dogs apparently trying to get a free pup (I didn't add any details except that I found a young female "pit bull looking" pup and that she would need identified and proof of ownership would need to be shown before I handed her over). If they wanted her back there were tons of opportunities (though I admit there was eventually a shift from "I hope her owners call soon" to "I hope no one tries to claim her...") and over two years later I've owner her for pretty well her whole life at this point.
     
  11. E Diggy

    E Diggy Big Dog

    That's a good point. I think the X factor would be the amount of time the new owner had the dog. If you had a show dog and it came up missing for a couple weeks or months. The time the new owners had the dog doesn't cancel out the dog's worth. If the new owner's had the dog for years, that's a different story.
     
  12. E Diggy

    E Diggy Big Dog

    This is kind of a polarizing thread here, but let me throw this out there; what if the dog wasn't an abused dog from the shelter, wasn't a stray that nobody ever bothered to look for? What if this was a dog that wandered a great distance from its home? (this has happened) What if that's the reason you were never able to find the original owners? What if the original owners tried hard to find the dog, but were searching in all the wrong places?

    Now, same thing. You've taken care of the dog for a year or 2. It's your dog now. It's a member of your family. You love the dog and your kids love the dog. And then, somehow, the original owners and you come into contact and they have absolute proof that this is their dog. Then what? Do you hand the dog over then?
     
  13. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    I found a Corvette awhile back and have been driving the shit out of that thing. the original owner didn't take care of it the way I would have, and I think its happier with me, so why should I be forced to give it back?....oh yeah, because it's someone elses property.
     
  14. E Diggy

    E Diggy Big Dog


    :goodposting:
     
  15. adjecyca

    adjecyca Good Dog

    I think as others have said it would very much depend on the situation, stolen,natural disaster, all of those things, as much as i may have come to love the dog, i would HAVE to give the dog back,only because i would desperately want someone to do the same for me if the situation was reversed. My 2 current rescue dogs, absolutely not, the owners CLEARLY didn't want them,and if they changed their mind? Well too bad, they are mine now..

    I think a natural disaster is a perfectly understandable reason for loosing a pet, not everyone gets warnings, and not everyone gets a choice, sometimes it comes down to "it's me or the dog".
     
  16. E Diggy

    E Diggy Big Dog

    That's nice. Now let me ask you this; what if they insisted on their dog back? Would you give the dog back or fight them on it?
     
  17. Beki

    Beki Good Dog Premium Member

    Many years ago I owned an ACD. One day when my MIL was watching my kids, she darted out the front door. I hung fliers at every veterinary hospital, AC, shelter, had radio spots on local stations and put adds in every news paper within a 60 mile radius. She was gone for almost 6 months. She was found and kept by someone for 5 of those months until they decided to turn her into the local pound. Long story short, no one ever bothered to scan her for a micro chip. The new owner took her into the same clinic I adopted her from to get her vaccines and the office manager immediately recognized her. After talking with the office manager, I found out this person had just lost her GSD to osteosarcoma. She also told be that the person was very heart broken to learn this dog that had helped her to heal did indeed belong to someone else. I had her back for 3 days, that's all it took for me to realize that she had indeed bonded very strongly with this other person. By the 5 th day arrangements had been made and I turned ownership over to her new family.
     
  18. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    Very intresting question-but now I have a question, what if it were the other way around and YOUR dog had been stolen/ lost for over a year and you FINALLY found them with a wounderful loving family-would you expect/ask/want them back or would you let them go?
     
  19. E Diggy

    E Diggy Big Dog

    Very kind of you. It just goes to show you though that not every stray or rescue was abused or neglected. Just because you do your best to find the original owner, doesn't mean you will or that the original owner isn't looking for them. People can miss flyers, sometimes word doesn't get around, even an animal shelter can forget to scan for a chip. To all the people who said they wouldn't give the dog back, think about this scenario.
     
  20. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    now is when you will find members giving answers similar to my first one. it makes a fella angry as hell when one of his dogs "disappears". I don't care if they have kids, I do as well, and I don't care if the dog was living with a "wonderful loving family"..... last time I checked dogs were treated very well in my house and theres plenty of love for them here as well.
     
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