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I think he's da.

Discussion in 'Bull Terrier Training' started by Sincityapbt, Oct 19, 2011.

  1. Sincityapbt

    Sincityapbt Puppy

    Yesterday I took my 9 month old bull terrier for a walk with my friends bully ,and they've known each other since puppies, now they were good for awhile but my dodger like flipped a switch and started trying to fight my Freinds dog. He gets along fine with my other two dogs so I'm not sure if it's just that they don't see each other everyday or what. But is he da?
     
  2. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    If my dog did that, I would probably label her "da" in my mind, just to remind myself to be very careful when introducing her to new dogs as well as always supervising her completely when she is playing with any dog.

    Good luck!
     
  3. Sincityapbt

    Sincityapbt Puppy

    Thanks I guess my main concern is when we walk him around our housing community some folks tend to ignore the keep dog on leash at all times sign.
     
  4. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    Just make sure you have your dog's focus on you at all times when you ask for it (treats or squeaky toys always help). I just yell to scare off the other dog or try to catch the other dog before it reaches my dog. Of course this won't work if your dog has already decided that he will eat the other one... However, it seems that the da is mild so far, so I would just be extra careful when outside.
     
  5. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    the most common reason for DA is Dominace.
    either your dog was showing the other dog dominace or the other dog was showing your dog dominace. i REALLY suggest that you look into learning a bit about dog behavior. learn a dogs body laungue to see what a dog trying to dominat over another dog looks like becuase that is what sets dogs off. some dogs have igh tolerance of other dogs pushing them other dogs most often bully breeds have very low tolerance over other dogs showing domincae over them.
    some dogs are pushy when trying to show dominace over other dogs even though the dog they are attempting to dominat over surrendeds or shows submission some dogs continue tp push and push and push untill that dog either snaps or with some dogs just take it.
    look for a stiffend body posture,erect tail and ears,puffed out chest and physical pushing or mounting. those are the behaviors you want to stop from your own dog. a normal dog will greet another dog with assertivness as in the stiffend body posture BUT they will not push physically useing there ehads and bodies standing so close to the other dog constantly to make the tehr og step aside or move. if your dog is exhibiting htose behaviors you want to put a stop to them ASAP put a lead on your dog an give them a jerk or pull them away from the other dog. if you happen to be meeting and greeting another dog who begins exhibiting these behaviors you want to put a stop to it. what i do is step in between cesar and the other dog if its off lead if the owners are ignroeing there dog (which most do) if the dog does not pay attention to me i will physically touch the dog and make it step back if the dog is on lead i simply walk away and do not allow cesar to interact with that dog if he is off lead i call him away and not allow him around that dog.
    if yoru able to watch your dog around other dogs and watching dogs around your own dog if you can learn how to recignize what this looks like and stop this behavior from your own and other dogs i can almost (ALMOST) gaurentee you will prevent all fights
    that is considering your dog is not reacting out of fear.
    take a look on youtube or where ever you can at videos of dogs fighting and getting into fights and watch the behaviors just before the fight begins youll most likely see the bahaviors ive discribed
     
  6. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    I think someone has been watching too much of the dog whisperer.... :)
     
  7. Kahne

    Kahne Good Dog

    dont think I would jump to DA but I would keep it in mind.
    I dont like
    everyone I meet I dont expect my dogs too. My Amstaff Kahne is very Dog friendly
    but he has met two dogs he Showed signs of not wanting to be around so I took
    him out of the situation before he had a chance to do anything. Maybe reading up
    on dog body language would help you allot so you can read you dogs signs and
    help stop a bad situation from happening.
    Also if you are having a problem
    with off leash dogs i would suggest buying some doggy mace, Yelling and
    screaming at a approaching dog could make your dog act more defensively.
     
  8. Sincityapbt

    Sincityapbt Puppy

    thanks ill read up on body language. yea we just kept them apart after that, we walked them a distance away from each other.
     
  9. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    That's a good point. Now that I think about it, every time I have done so, Sonya has made a low growl at the dog. But otherwise, she's happy to meet them. But you gotta do what you gotta do when a strange dog is running at you...
     
  10. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    well even if you dont agree with the dog whisperers methods (i personally do) its still a great way of elarning about dog behavior and body laungue you have so many visual refrence right there to learn from he shows you the differance fro ma nervous dogs posture from a confedents dogs posture most people automatically think nervous dog means exaturated body posture like crouched low,tail between the legs,ears back ect and thats not always the case or alot of people think an aggressive dogs will show the obvious signs like showing teeth,hackles raised, growling ect which again is not always the case so many people say "i dont know what happend my dog was fine then jsut snapped!" which is RARELY the case a dog is showing alot of body laungue that most people dont realize they think so long as the dog is not biteing or grwling then hes happy.
    so like i said its very good refrence to learn from!
     
  11. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    He also thinks that a dog trembling, salivating, and showing the whites of his eyes is in a "calm relaxed" state lol

    Here's a nice book with tons of pictures
    Amazon.com: Canine Body Language: A Photographic Guide Interpreting the Native Language of the Domestic Dog (9781929242351): Brenda Aloff: Books

    ---------- Post added at 12:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 PM ----------

    Here is his "calm relaxed" dog that he has just finished chocking lol. Does he look calm and relaxed to you?

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  12. Kahne

    Kahne Good Dog

    You are 100% right you do what you have to do i just prefer to save the screaming and yelling for last lol
     
  13. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    to each there own. but if you watched the ep that dog is trying to go after his face and arms to attck some dog turns its frustrations on the handler and no its not just what ive seen on the dog whisperer ive seen it personally an overly stimulated dog is trying to go after someone or somthing cant get at it so it turns toward the handler to grab at them when i first got cesar and he would get overly stimulated by the vaccum cleaner he would bite and grab at the person holding the vaccum i also helped a women with ehr chihuahua who if you restrained it it would turn and attack whom ever touched it. you can bet if i was in that situation i would choke it like that to keep it from grabbing my face with its teeth too! im not going to stand there and offer the dog a treat will its trying to rip my face off quite frankly i like my face and DONT want stitches and plastic surgery

    sorry but i dont belive bribeing your dog for everything ESPECIELLY when its showing signs of aggression toward another animal or a people i dont hit dogs i dont yell at dogs i dont kick dogs but if my dog isnt listening to me you bet your bum im going to be firm and give him a quick jerk on the lead to get his attention and a firm voice telling him NO when i want a behavior to stop but somehow that makes me a terrable person nowdays because apperantly my dog is so fearful of me becuase im considerd firm and dont let him get away with things and dont bribe him 24/7 either i just have to laugh at the rediculessness of it all!
    all right im done with this thread as im tierd of hearing how bad a owner i am from everywhere
     
  14. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    I promised myself I won't get into this debate again...but ..ugh.. here i go!

    The problem is NOT the use of positive punishment! The problem is the use of idiotic methods that make no sense when you think of the function of behavior.

    For example, the dog is barking at another dog outside. What's the reinforcer for barking? The other dog walking away. Now you have a situation where the owner jerks and yells at the dog for barking at another one, while the other dog and their owner walk away. Is the punishment actually effective? No, you are still reinforcing your dog's barking by letting the other one walk away.

    What I'm saying is, you need to figure out what's MAINTAINING the behavior instead of relying on blind punishment to suppress it momentarily. All behavior, whether it's good or bad, has something that maintains it (i.e. the definition of reinforced behavior). To stop undesirable behaviors, we must figure out what the maintaining variable is (here is where we use a functional analysis, look it up in the autistic literature). If we cannot control it (i.e. something that is automatically reinforced, like maybe boredom barking), then some form of punishment can be useful (if you tried managing first and failed that is).

    Listen, I freaking study dog behavior for a living! Can you at least consider scientific explanations for behavior? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I just get frustrated with these kinds of things...
     
  15. pookie!

    pookie! GRCH Dog

    Doesnt sound like full on DA to me, maybe dog selectiveness? I know my boy is DA to small dogs and some larger ones, but fine with my Gmas yorkie herd and my sisters bully pup and the neighbor's standard poodle..

    I would just be careful about having them close together where they can grab one another but, IMO its a perfect training exercise to teach your dog to focus on YOU and not the other dog he/she wants to go after. I would keep walking them together and start using a "leave it" command and a "watch me" command in conjunction with maybe some treats and other positive things, I know it comes in handy A LOT with my dog and hallways, stores, sidewalks etc when another dog is present.
     
  16. Sincityapbt

    Sincityapbt Puppy

  17. Buford

    Buford Puppy

    My apologies, but what does DA mean?
     
  18. Kojac

    Kojac Little Dog

    Dog Aggression.
     

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