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I need to vent

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by ShanaRowan, Aug 3, 2014.

  1. ShanaRowan

    ShanaRowan FlirtPolin' Premium Member

    Sorry in advance if this is whiny, but I neeeeed to get this off my chest and I can't rant on Facebook because a certain someone will see it.

    We rent out a room in our house because we are poor. A guy and his moronic girlfriend who sleeps all day. But it pays our mortgage. Anyway they have two dogs. Both pit bull mutts. Both we actually fostered before they moved in, and at the time he wanted to adopt them, it seemed fine. He had a stable job and did stuff with them and it was all OK. Was also before the girlfriend who has a kid that she doesn't have custody of. Fast forward to now.

    He is not working. He was fired from his last job (fifth? in 3 years) and is currently on unemployment. He spends 95% of his time in the bedroom playing Facebook games, 4% driving around/buying takeout food, 1% letting the dogs outside. Oh and he also likes to claim that he is a huge dog lover, especially a "pit bull advocate" and is always sharing petitions and "save this abused pit bull" posts. He also just LOVES the fact that I am friends with someone who runs a pit bull rescue and whenever one of his illustrious friends is dumping a bully breed mix dog, he sends them to me no matter how many times I tell him my friend is full. Yet he does .NOTHING. with his own dogs. NOTHING. he sends them out 3 times a day, goes to the bathroom while they are out in the yard, and then sends them back upstairs. I have a suspicion that they stay in their crates all day too but honestly I don't want to know because if I did, I would flip the fuck out.

    One of the dogs is older, about 8 or 9, and for the longest time, he refused to deworm her. Claimed he couldn't afford it. I finally told him that she was going to die if he didn't. She lost like 20 lbs. She was emaciated. He FINALLY did. She looks a little better now, but she needs to go to the vet. Desperately. Claims he can't afford that either. Yesterday he asked me what kind of brush I use for my MALAMUTE because she's loosing clumps of hair and he wants to brush her... I told him he doesn't need a brush, he needs a...VET. He laughed.

    His latest thing is leaving his dogs out in the yard while he goes upstairs to "take care of some things for 5-10 minutes" (that apparently he can't do while he's up there all day) or even better, he leaves the house for 20 minutes. I shut that down quickly. His dogs have gotten into fights before... and he just freaks out and calls me because he can't get them apart. I can in about 15 seconds. When I told him he can't leave them out unsupervised, he just got mad and said "but you leave your dogs outside all day!" Yes... because I'm outside WITH them. I also leave for several hours at a time WITH them because we actually go and EXERCISE. He'll also bring my dogs in, bring his out, and then leave my dogs in their crates without telling me after he's done.

    Okay I could go on for hours but I feel a little better now. Anyone else need to vent? Going to exercise my dogs now.
  2. BCdogs

    BCdogs Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    Was there any sort of adoption contract when he got the dogs? I'd be most concerned about the older dog's health at this point, let alone all the other bullshit that's going on. Any way to "repossess" the dogs at all to get them proper care?
  3. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    Since you rent out a room to them, you are considered the Landlord. IF any of the dogs bites another dog or a human, you will be responsible since you are the Landlord.

    Do you rent the room month to month or do they have a lease?
  4. ShanaRowan

    ShanaRowan FlirtPolin' Premium Member

    The older dog we fostered privately... my friend's rescue had no room so I just did it myself. So no, no contract. Stupid, I know. This was almost 2 years ago. I just had him pay me $100 to cover some of the cost of her care. The other dog we fostered through my friend's rescue and there is a contract. But she is over capacity right now. And that dog is fine health wise, just a little fat and not getting the kind of attention I would give to my dogs. I've talked to my friend about it several times and she shares my frustration, but said there's legally nothing she can do since the dog isn't being abused, starved or neglected. If something did happen, we would wind up with his younger dog most likely, and frankly the older dog would probably be euthanized because she's unpredictable with strange dogs, has severe SA, and I wouldn't put it past her to bite someone if she were rehomed to an inexperienced home out of fear. Hate to say it.

    That being said, I'm not overly concerned about his dogs attacking other dogs or people while he's living here. I am pretty much here and outside all the time when I'm not out with my dogs, and he doesn't bring them anywhere. I've tried getting him to come to weight pull practices, lure coursing and barn hunt and there's always an excuse. I am more just angry with the way he treats them. Like what is the point of him owning dogs at all? And to pretend that he is such a dog lover. Ugh...

    There is no lease at all because we are idiots. That will obviously change with the next tenant that we have. He's been here close to 3 years and we were just totally naive when we did it... just needed money really quickly and didn't think it through. He's not getting his security deposit back tho, lol... thanks to his dog destroying a bunch of my stuff because he couldn't be bothered to watch her. Oh and his girlfriend destroying our bathroom because she flooded it and called him at work instead of plunging the toilet. This is the intelligence level I'm dealing with.

    At one point, he was also going to bring the older dog to a shelter rather than deal with her howling in the middle of the night when he was working nights and coming home then. When I told him he should have her humanely euthanized instead of dumping her there to eventually be euthed by a stranger bc that's what would wind up happening, he got furious and said I "wasn't giving her a chance."
  5. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    You need to go to court and file eviction papers if you want them out. That will take awhile so if i was you, I would start now.

    If you are there all the time, the dog would not have destroyed your stuff, right? I'm a little confused.

    At this point, concentrate on getting them out. If the judge says you have to give back the security, just give it back. It's not worth the stress.
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 3, 2014
  6. PocketPal

    PocketPal Big Dog

    I feel for you, I really do. as they say "...the road to hell is paved with good intentions." All i can say is you need to look out for no. 1 (that's you). I know hindsight is 20/20, but a proper referal, home visit and background check would have "avoided" the adoption, but it got personal for you and he took advantage of it. for what it's worth (.02 cents) make him face public humiliation till he gives up the dogs or clean up his act...you might lose the tenant and mortgage subsidy though.

    all the best
  7. ShanaRowan

    ShanaRowan FlirtPolin' Premium Member

    Michele, the dog got to my stuff a couple of years ago when he used to actually come out of his room and spend time downstairs in the living room doing schoolwork. She'd be chewing/ripping stuff up in the other room while he was oblivious. Now he and they are upstairs all but 24/7. If I'm not out with my dogs, I'm outside at the house, so if his dogs are outside, I can see or at least hear them. If the dog is destroying his stuff in his room, I don't really care.

    PocketPal - the guy is my roommate - his home is my home, lol. He was a good owner for a while. He had owned dogs before, even a pit bull mix, and had several people vouch for him. It's just gotten sooo ridiculous in the last 6 months - year.

    The laws in NY are terrible when it comes to landlord-tenant relations, in favor of the tenant. It happened to our neighbors. If someone stays at your home for more than 30 days, even if they haven't paid a dime, they legally live there. Our neighbors had a scuzzy guy who was living rent free in their house with all of his crap, threatened the husband with a knife, molested the wife while she was asleep (but there was no proof) and it still took 2 months and multiple police calls to the house to get him to leave. We're pretty effing fed up with his crap, yes, but yeah... pretty much stuck as we need the income. So I just keep doing what I can to keep him in line.
  8. lizzie13

    lizzie13 Good Dog

    Why don't you offer to do things with his dogs? You know, that may make him think " hey, I can walk my own dog". Just a male "pride" thing. Lol once you walk his dogs or something he may get offended and realize his lazy as needs to do something for those dogs or someone else will. If he's such an "animal l9ver" it may make him feel shitty. I dunno. Lol
  9. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    The laws with regard to landlord/tenant do not suck in NY. If you want him out, you need to go to court. You own the house, this guy is the tenant that rents from you on a month to month basis. Go to court and start eviction proceedings. While you are doing that, start looking for another tenant and screen them thoroughly.
  10. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    Was there ever a need to call the police on the tenant? If you have, be sure to get that paperwork for court. Take pictures of the bathroom (you said the girlfriend ruined the bathroom) for court.
  11. ShanaRowan

    ShanaRowan FlirtPolin' Premium Member

    No, we've never needed to call the police on him... he's a PITA but not doing anything law-breaking, loud or destructive (recently, at least.) As I said we're not in a financial position to kick them out right now. We have fantasized about it yes but we simply do not have the money to cover our bills while a procedure was in process.

    In the past I have offered to take his younger dog to weight pull practice and a few weeks ago I did manage to get him to come with me to drag, as well as a lure coursing lesson. His dog did well with the dragging, OK with coursing. But then he flaked out for the actual WP practice saying he "didn't feel well" (same excuse for the last 3 years) and coursing is done for the summer, so... yeah. I'd be happy to do stuff with his younger dog if I weren't so busy with my own. The older dog... don't really want to take her out in public.
  12. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    Raise his rent.
  13. ShanaRowan

    ShanaRowan FlirtPolin' Premium Member

    We did! He pays $250 more than when he first moved in. I think that's the main reason why we haven't seriously considered trying to evict him. Kind of eases the frustration of all the other BS.

    And just to be clear, if we did think there was a chance that either dog posed a serious threat to us, our dogs, or the public... he or they would be gone. Well, the one dog would wind up ours since she's from my friend's rescue and she's over capacity. But currently our dogs and his are kept separately and don't have any contact.
  14. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    I know you have a month by month with this guy, bu what kind of a contract do you have with him? Verbal? Written?
  15. ShanaRowan

    ShanaRowan FlirtPolin' Premium Member

  16. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    If you want him out, keep raising his rent until he can't pay it anymore. In the meantime, start looking for another tenant.
  17. RoxiePup

    RoxiePup Big Dog

    Lol Michele is ruthless!
  18. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    What can I say. I'm a New Yawker:grin:
  19. ShanaRowan

    ShanaRowan FlirtPolin' Premium Member

    One thing I was thinking about before that I didn't mention is that there is a piece of property we have our eye on and may eventually move to, about 8 miles away. It's very much up in the air for a number of reasons, but if it were to happen, the only way it would be possible at least in the beginning would be for us to keep the house we're in now and continue renting it out, but as the entire house/property instead of just a room. He has expressed interested in doing so, and things would be much more bearable if we weren't sharing the house with him. The end goal, of course, would be to charge enough that we could afford to do the work we need to do (our house really needs a roof and new kitchen) so it can be sold for what it's really worth. Then, none of this will be an issue anymore...
  20. lizzie13

    lizzie13 Good Dog

    I was thinking the same. Lol she wants him out more than the OP!

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