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I have a question about Animal Aggression in the breed.

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by StevenNeill, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. StevenNeill

    StevenNeill Puppy

    The problem for me is that I dont just have the two pups. I also have a ferret I let out of his mansion regularly and we have 3 cats that come and go as they please. We have been socializing them with the cats and it is going well. We also take them with us everywhere so they meet lots of people in different places andnat petsmart they meet other dogs.. the only time I have kept them away from meeting another dog was tonight when they went in for vaccinations. Just ahead of us a lady was bringing in a full grown APBT. He was fighting her on the leash and was obviously not leash trained...which was enough for me to believe she had not spent much time with her dog and i decided to hold back to avoid any type of confrontation. Nothing happenedn but I took that precaution. Anyway if. I can not stop animal aggression then for the most part I am going to have to have a place for both while cats are in the house. Then I can rotate them in and out. I have nearly an acre of. Back yard so I also intend to build an obstacle course soon.
  2. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    Sounds awesome! I wish I had a larger yard to do that.

    I also have a cat and I have an African Grey parrot who needs out of the cage time. My APBT were raised with the cat and still think he's prey or want to play too rough with him depending on which dog we're talking about, so I don't take chances. They are also a bit too curious about the parrot. To prevent any of my dogs eating the cat or the bird I keep them separated. When the dogs are crated after their meals for naps I let out the cat and bird for a bit. When it's time for the dogs to wake up, go potty, and have some cuddles or training I put the cat back in his room and the bird back in it's cage.

    I also crate 3 dogs and train one at a time in new behaviors and to reinforce commands they know. Then I work with them all together. With multiple dogs I like to have one on one training time and then to work them as a group so they listen amid the distraction of the others.

    At night the cat is free roaming or sleeping with my son, one APBT sleeps in my daughters room with her, the other APBT and my Basset are crated, and my American Bulldog either sleeps with my husband and me or patrols the house which works as he doesn't bother the cat.

    If there's a will there's a way to manage every pet you own and make sure everyone is safe and happy.
  3. Jamielvsaustin

    Jamielvsaustin Good Dog

    We have two resident dogs, a foster dog and two cats and we "crate and rotate" too! The cats have their room, they actually spend quite a bit of time in there-at night when we sleep and during the day while we're at work. We have a couple cat towers in there, a little window perch thing and when we feed them it's typically out of some puzzle/WTE toy. They'll even hang out in there while we're home.

    Every once in a while the dogs and cats will play, and even rarer than that will the dogs get (what we consider) too rough. We'll say something to the dog to back off and that's that. So long as your cats and ferret have a place that the dogs are not allowed in (in our case, it's the cat room) they'll have a safe place to retreat too should they need to. I really think that's important for your other animals. That along with managing, supervising and stepping in when need to and you guys should be good to go.

    Our dogs are simply rotated between rooms-we've had to teach them what the baby gate means, it took time, but it's worth it. And the dogs aren't so crazy hateful towards one another that we can walk one by the other to go outside or switch rooms.

    Previously with another foster that was not the story. The dogs had to be separated by either kennels or closed doors. Baby gates, though the dogs knew what they meant, didn't stand a chance-specifically between the foster and the resident female (those dogs, absolutely, without a doubt, wanted to kill each other). I'll admit we have a few slip ups, but for the most part it really didn't take a lot of effort to keept them separated. They were well behaved (individually) that they rarely gave us any issues while switching them from room to room. (Of course in that case, the two dogs that hated each other could not simply be walked passed one another, one would need to be in room A, while the other moved from room B to C, and then the one in room A could be moved to room B).

    When I talk to people at work or out in the public about what I do with my dogs they think I'm crazy. They think it'd be too much work, and when I tell them that I know TONS of people that do it too-I don't think they believe me. But I'm on two forums and I'd say most of the members have some sort of crate and rotate situation going on in their house.

    We, as responsible PB owners, should always want to do everything we can to set our dogs up for success.
  4. GoingPostal

    GoingPostal Good Dog

    Even if they are great with your cat it's really not safe to leave them alone together so it's a good thing you are planning ahead. I have a cat and she hangs out in the upstairs, she doesn't interact with the dogs by choice which makes things a lot easier on me. My dogs know they aren't allowed to chase or eat the kitty so they respect that if I am supervising but I would never trust them alone with her. When we leave our older dog is gated downstairs (she's the only one who won't jump it), the younger two dogs are crated upstairs with my door shut, always best to double up on safety imo. I have also had ferrets longer than the dogs and they have their own bedroom to roam in, I let them out in the rest of upstairs if my b/f is downstairs with the dogs, they don't interact really ever. It's completely possible to run a multiple animal home, you just have to take precautions and put in the effort.

    Make sure you separate the pups soon and often, take them to separate training classes, one on one training/walking/quality time with you. You do not need two dogs crazy dependent on each other like this situation often ends up. They aren't going to see each other as "brothers" or family, when they mature it will just be two same sex, same age dogs and that can be an issue, it really just depends on the dogs. You can manage carefully, don't feed together, don't get revved up together playing, etc which can avoid common fight triggers but if they decide just to dislike each other in general there's nothing you can do but keep them apart.
  5. StevenNeill

    StevenNeill Puppy

    Thank you for the insight. I will keep all this in mind thanx forbyour input also Jamie.

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