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Huffington Post strikes again

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by DancesWithCurs, Jul 29, 2014.

  1. DancesWithCurs

    DancesWithCurs Good Dog

  2. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    I feel like I don't even want to read this....
     
  3. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    You probably don't. It's more of the same furmommyesque Pit Bull advocacy that "means well" and is "trying to help" but is only making the problem worse...
     
  4. SherryB

    SherryB Little Dog

    I must admit, I saw this article earlier today. It peaked my interest because I wondered what could the huffington post have to say that I might be willing to give 5 minutes of my time...after reading it rather quickly I had a passing thought to post the link applauding it. So after seeing here that others on this forum see it as negative and doing more harm than good, I read it again. So maybe I read it both times with my furmommie glasses on....but I still conclude it is a very good article especially for those people who regularly read the huffungton post and woulde never ever get any positive information about pitbulls...or for that matter get any information other than when the media sensationalizes some horrific incident.

    So, being a newbie to this forum and a newbie to pitbull ownership, I wonder why you see it as a bad article that does more harm than good. Educate me here...don't see it as an opportunity to jump on a furmommie. I want to learn.
     
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  5. ShanaRowan

    ShanaRowan FlirtPolin' Premium Member

    I'll venture a guess. I'm going to guess it's because...

    1) "the term "pit bull" refers to a group of dogs with similar characteristics" [I however can kind of give them a pass on this, I know most people here strictly believe that "pit bull" only refers to the APBT, but when you are dealing with the general public, anti-pit bull people, statistics and all that crap, "pit bull" DOES refer to basically anything that LOOKS like an APBT or any other bull breed]

    2) "pit bulls aren't any more dog aggressive than any other breed...just make sure to socialize them" (just...no)

    3) "pit bulls aren't any more animal aggressive than any other breed" (not true... not true of any terrier)

    4) "pit bulls weren't bred for fighting" (yes they were.)

    As someone else said, yes, it's obvious they were trying. So I appreciate that. But geeeeez... try harder! I scrolled through some of the comments, and this is how the haters win. They know more about the breed than the article does. Makes us look stupid and uneducated. That's how we lose. Dressing dogs up in cute hats doesn't win us points in the long run.
     
  6. lizzie13

    lizzie13 Good Dog

    Pit bulls are just mutts! Who knows what they are!!?? Lol I still think that's so hilarious that anything that has a blocky head is a pit bull. So all yellow dogs are labs...they aren't the same as Labrador retrievers though. Labs aren't a breed though, it's just a blanket term for all yellow dogs. Lol
     
  7. DancesWithCurs

    DancesWithCurs Good Dog

    Essentially it's another person with a mutt that wants to feel supar speshul about having such a poor stigmatized doggie so rather than do any actual research anywhere, they decided to generalize the crap out of anything in such blatantly bad misinformation that it would be laughable if it wasn't the reason that dogs are out there being killed because of the idiocy of her and other people like her
     
  8. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Good Dog

    Its perpetuating the idea that "pit bulls" are just like any dog AND that nuture trumps nature. This is dangerous thinking. Bull and terriers are prone to animal aggression and not only that but for extreme determination. They aren't dogs that you can raise around other animals and just trust them from then on out to behave socially with them. Genetics often override training. The more I'm studying, I came across the Breland Effect/Instinctive Drift. I think its fitting here.... Its not a myth that they shouldn't be trusted with other animals.

    Dogs are individuals but breed is important. You cant discount it when predicting behavior. APBTs require a firm hand and an understanding of their history to provide proper training and management of behavior that will pop up. They aren't for everyone and articles like this encourage everyone to go out and get one by only showing part of the story. Its like telling everyone to go out and get border collie because theyre so intelligent while excluding the fact that they are herders lol.
     
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  9. Lillie May

    Lillie May Good Dog

    I couldn't help myself, I just commented on it. I said the APBT is the only dog who should be called a pit bull. I said they were indeed bred for dog on dog combat, and that practice still takes place today. Does that make everyone who owns one a dog fighter? Certainly not, they are being shown in dog shows or dog sports such as fly ball or dock diving. I said I own a bully mix, not a "pit bull" and I'm a responsible dog owner. By spreading these stories the dogs are being set up to fail. The public needs educated that APBT, American Staffordshire, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, their mixes, along with the 20 or more pure breeds, should not fall under the blanket term pit bull. What this country needs is education.
     
  10. SherryB

    SherryB Little Dog

    All very considerate responses! Thank you. I opened this post this morning expecting some attacks at my question. Thank you for your replies and for the information you shared. It's been a real eye opener to now be on the other side of the issue since I now own one of those stereo-typed kind of dogs.
     
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  11. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    At that point, I stopped reading.
     
  12. Wow. Finally a pit bull forum with people with common sense. Admitting the history and purpose of the APBT is a huge stride in actually saving the breed you love. Bravo. I think I'll stick around a little bit here.
     
  13. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    Woot! We'd love it if you would, Jeff!!
     
  14. bsand

    bsand Good Dog

    x2 I hate when my am staff gets called a pitbull. So much so that in the winter when he needs a sweater I'm going to get "not a pitbull" embroidered on it. That being said I don't hate pitbulls, I hate ignorant people.
     
  15. SherryB

    SherryB Little Dog

    This has been an interesting post. Hope you all don't mind that we Am staff owners poke around in the pitbull posts that aren't just under the AmStaff section. I do know that I've learned from it. Thanks for educating us "newbies".
     
  16. stevespe

    stevespe Little Dog

    Don't think anyone would mind. Some of us, like myself, have shelter mutts and have no idea what we have. I didn't read the article and based on the comments didn't feel there was any need to. Having an animal with great power comes with great responsibility. As long as people realize what their animal is capable of, even if it has never shown any signs of it, and take the proper precautions things for the most part would be better.
     
  17. Bluefamily

    Bluefamily Little Dog

    I have just come to decide I am tired of educationg the ignorant masses. There are so many of them and omg they just keep getting born! I tried for a long time to verbally eduacate and inform and explain...blah blah blah. But the fact of the matter is that folks seems to want to here the first few words and make up the rest of it that fits into their safe cocooned world. Now I do my edcating by demonstrating. Since my dogs are not making the headlines in destruction, and have their own jobs to do and we train and go to shows and stuff...then for those who are interested in learning...they have an example to see. Otherwise, I am not going to waste my breath trying to open somebody else's pea brain for another way of looking at things.
     
  18. stevespe

    stevespe Little Dog

    When it comes down to it, it's pointless. People are on one side of the fence or the other. Rarely can someone be convinced that their belief is wrong. I recently read an article about small child that was mauled in a parking lot by a "pit bull". There were several red flags in this story to me. First, obviously the dog was euthanized and you can't define a breed by a picture but was it really a "pit bull" or was it just labeled as so because of the mauling. Secondly, the owner had apparently chained the dog to a pole in a public parking lot while the owner went off to do something. Finally the child was mauled when he/she tried to hug the dog. Now chaining your dog to a pole in a public area, and then leaving, Dumbass. Letting your child approach and try to hug a strange dog chained to a pole, dumbass. Unfortunately the child was the victim of poor judgement on two peoples part. The comments were split, as usual, between those who feel all pit bulls are evil and those that realized the problem with the situation. Until "pit bulls" quit being the cool macho dog that irresponsible assholes want to own to make them feel more macho, it won't change.
     

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