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how do i train my scared dog

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by 619loc, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. 619loc

    619loc Puppy

    hi wats up. Im having trouble teaching my dog anything, I just got her about a month ago and she is 4 months old she seems scared of almost everything. I think its because her past owner didnt spend any time with her. she can barely walk on a leash. she likes me and my brother a lot but we cant seem to bribe her to do anything with food or praise. She has potential and a beutiful build. I am thinking about getting a shock or stimulant collar. but I doubt it will work if any one has any advise please let me know
     
  2. jillibean87

    jillibean87 Good Dog

    I would strongly advise against getting an E Collar. If she is having a difficult time with confidence issues then administering shocks will not help. Don't get me wrong, electric collars are an extremely effective tool, when used properly after being trained by a professional.
    Try contacting a behaviourist in your area, they will be able to help you and your dog and her specific problems.
     
  3. Arrowhead

    Arrowhead Good Dog

    You're thinking about getting a shock or stimulant collar to use on her now? Goodness, I wouldn't do that, it will very likely make things worse. She could be going through a fear stage right now, which is normal. It could also be lack of socialization of some sort, from what you said about her previous owner. Right now I would work on building her confidence. Take things in baby steps for now and only teach one small thing at a time until she grasps it. Chose something simple to teach her and praise and/or treat her when she does a good job (even if it's a command you have to move her into position for at first). Teaching her to sit might would be something simple to start out with. Be careful with your praise so that you're not getting too enthusiastic with it 'cause it can freak a timid pup out. A soothing "good girl" and a simple stroke on her head or under her chin should suffice. Each time build up to working on something else. Once her confidence is built up you can eventually move onto other things like walking her on a leash.
     
  4. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    No shock collar please....:)
     
  5. genevieve

    genevieve Big Dog Premium Member

    Putting a shock collar on a scared dog is the worst possible idea.

    Find a board certified veterinary behaviorist through referral by your vet or a good CLICKER trainer in your area (had great results with clicker on my nervy dog).

    Genevieve
     
  6. pitgirl17

    pitgirl17 Welcome Waggin

    If she doesn't respond to food, treats or praise find something else. Have you tried SPECIAL TREATS ex. carrots, apples, ice, peanut butter etc. Like everyone said slow and steady, don't be in a rush or push your dog to get better faster. That will only hinder your progress. Be patient she will get it. Talk to a behaviorist, as we can give advice on the forum we have not met or interacted with your dog and can only give advice off of what you say. Haveing someone met the dog and read its body language would really help you in helping your dog overcome its fears.
     
  7. 619loc

    619loc Puppy

    i cant teach her to sit because she wont let me put her into position she is strong. when I try to position her she gets scared. when she sees anybody she doesnt know she wont go near them. it took her about a week to get comfertable with me. is there anything i can do that does not envolve hiring a behaviorist
     
  8. Chicos Mum

    Chicos Mum Puppy

    i would think that a shock collar would scare her even more...
     
  9. lovapit

    lovapit Little Dog

    You should join your nearest obedience club, your instructors will give you plenty of advise, continue your training at home, plenty of treats, positive reinforcement and praise.

    If your that concerned about your pups insecurities and behaviour, you really need to speak to a behaviourist, have them come out and assess you and your pup.

    Like pittygirl17 said, don't be in a rush or push your dog to get better faster, it takes plenty of time, trust and patience.

    Getting a dog to sit does not consist of pushing on its lower back, which again is why I recommend obedience, not just for your pups training, but also so for you to learn how to work and train with your pup.
     
  10. Mollie's Nana

    Mollie's Nana Krypto Super Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    A shock collar is a really bad idea for this dog.... just asking for her already scared condition to get worse.

    To get her to sit, put some peanut butter on a dog biscuit. Let her smell it, but not have it. to get her to sit, hold the treat, and move it back above her head, to where she has to not only look up, but she is looking up and back behind her head. Don't hold it high above her head, only inches. When you move it back behind her eyes, back toward her ears, she will look back. Tell her "sit" in a calm, coaxing tone, and when she sits, give her the treat and tell her good girl... lots of praise. You will have to do this over and over. It's hard for me to explain, but you don't want the treat high above her head, because she will try to jump up for it. You want it just above her head, and when you move it back out of her line of vision, she should automatically sit in order to see the treat.

    Peanut butter is good because it has a strong smell, and most dogs love it. You could also use beef or liver dog treats, or cheese... anything that she loves to eat. Mollie's favorite is.... well, anything, but some dogs turn their noses up at liver treats. You could even use pieces of boiled chicken to try to get her started. :)
     
  11. Arrowhead

    Arrowhead Good Dog

    The advice Mollie's Nana gave on teaching sit is the one I use. That's kinda what I meant about moving your dog into position...well them following the treat back with their head is what moves them into position, but you're controlling the treat (I'm sorry, at times I automatically think people are thinking the way I am). It's really hard on an internet forum to fully explain training techniques. If you're having as hard a time as you are, and nothing you've done so far has worked, it would be best to consult with a trainer, as they can teach you how to train your pup. I hate to say it 'cause I know you don't want to hear it, but as far as her timidity, it would be best to have her evaluated by a behaviorist. A behaviorist can let you know whether or not she has temperament issues, if it's something maybe that you're doing wrong in your training you don't realize, etc...

    Good luck and keep us up to date on how things go with her.
     
  12. running with bulls

    running with bulls Little Dog

    Whooooa!! No shock collar! Those make things way worse in dogs that are afraid.
    What foods have you tried to bribe her with? I think if you find one she really likes it might help. Try tuna, cooked fish, raw beef, Zooks treats, cheese. there is sooo many diff dog treats out there.
    If she still doesnt respond dont feed her her next meal. make her hungry. Im not saying to starve your dog. It would be like us skipping a meal then smelling some good food. It will make her more interested in it.

    I would take her out to places strange to her and feed her her rations there. Make new places really great things.

    Just some advice. This is some of the stuff I have done recently with the puggle i have acquired. She was fearful of EVERYTHING. She is almost ready for her new home now!!
     
  13. maryellen

    maryellen Good Dog

    get the book Help For Your Fearful Dog by Nicole Wilde, it is a good trainng book to help those with dogs that have fear issues.
    dont force your pup to be with you, let the pup take its time, the more you push it the more it will stay away.
    was this pup like this when you got it?

    fearful dogs are from 2 things 1 genetics 2 lack of socialization. pups that have fearful genetic temperments will NEVER be perfect,you have to manage them for life. pups that missed out on important socialization can bounce back, it will take twice as long though and you must go slow. all pups go thru a fear stage a few times while growing up, some go thru it fast and with no problems, some have lasting effects ...

    A SHOCK COLLAR WILL RUIN HER. she is a 4 month old pup, who probably missed out on some socialization. give her time to settle to her new surroundings. make sure all praise comes from you for all the good she does.. do not reprimand for bad behavior, but redirect it to good behavior.. you have alot of work to do and patience is the key
     
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2009
  14. marleyboy

    marleyboy Puppy

    with love and affection. in no way will any sensible person recommend any kind of "force" training. your dog is at a very tender age in her life. use all the positive methods you can think. rewarding for going potty outside, reward her for coming to you, reward her for every thing you see that she does that is ok for her to do.
    and do not be impatient with her. taking your time.
     

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