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Help Save Our Dog Hondo

Discussion in 'Rescue & Adoption' started by SaveHondo, Apr 20, 2008.

  1. For Hondo

    For Hondo Puppy

    Hello. Per the foster agreement, we were entittled to keep Hondo through May 5, 2008. We could keep him longer, but were of no obligation to do so. But, since she asked for his return and would not negotiate with us (we offered to have him evaluated and given further training as needed), we legally had to give him to her. Again, Carina never even met Hondo, and Becky never came to our home to meet Hondo or spend any time with Hondo. And Hondo doesn't have any agressive tendencies nor does he have behavioral problems. Carina has no idea why Hondo's adpoptions failed and all of which have nothing to due with his behavior!!! She's just using this to try and justify removing him from our home, which she's done. It would seem that if there was geniune care for Hondo, he wouldn't be continually maligned, making it next to impossible for him to be adopted.
     
  2. For Hondo

    For Hondo Puppy

  3. For Hondo

    For Hondo Puppy

    Yvette-I'm done overlooking your poor information and insensitive posts. Carina sent out the urgent email to myself and others asking me to help with the puppies and the dogs. I have the email so no, I'm NOT lying. YOU WERE NOT THERE AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. It would be great if you would focus on providing good informatioin when you log on and post. Again, there were no unleashed introductions. I was across the street with my dog. I was there to pick up the puppies after having talked at length to two people who help run the shelter. I find it absolutely disgusting that you and Carina (supposed animal lovers) describe my dog as the "yappy, bratty dog that gets in the face of the Pit Bull" implying that my dog deserved what he got. How unkind could you be???? My dog almost died. He has permament dammage to his trachea, which is still causing him problems. But, then I love animals. It doesn't matter to me if they're a purebred Lhasa Apso or Pit Bull mix with his ears chewed off from abuse.
     
  4. For Hondo

    For Hondo Puppy

    RE: URGENT Prosser Dog‏From:Kimberly Fishburn (k_fishburn@hotmail.com)Sent:Mon 1/28/08 9:59 AMTo: Rebecca Field (rfield@starbucks.com); alphamom33@aol.com; perrinsemail@comcast.netCc: carina@animalsfirstfoundation.org; jules4u20@hotmail.com
    Oliver was on a leash. That dog gave no warning, but simply took one look at Ollie and attacked him full force.

    Subject: RE: URGENT Prosser Dog
    Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:55:12 -0800
    From: RField@starbucks.com
    To: AlphaMom33@aol.com; perrinsemail@comcast.net
    CC: carina@animalsfirstfoundation.org; jules4u20@hotmail.com; k_fishburn@hotmail.com

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    Thanks!
    Rebecca Field
    SCI Store Operations Services-Implementation
    +1.206.318.7030 (office), +1.425.922.4377 (mobile)

    From: AlphaMom33@aol.com [mailto:AlphaMom33@aol.com]
    Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:27 AM
    To: perrinsemail@comcast.net; Rebecca Field
    Cc: carina@animalsfirstfoundation.org; jules4u20@hotmail.com; k_fishburn@hotmail.com
    Subject: Re: URGENT Prosser Dog



    In a message dated 1/28/2008 9:26:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, perrinsemail@comcast.net writes:

    We are having her assessed today.
    Were intros done on leash??



    Yvette
    A Paw Up Rescue http://www.apawup.com/
    "The only flaw of these dogs is that they exist without love and human partners.
    The flaws are in our expectations."

    Berkeley Breathed, "Flawed Dogs"



    And here is the email string with Yvette right before she started posting here about how I'm a liar and irresponsible and that the dogs weren't on leashes, etc. Real classy move there Yvette!!!


     
  5. PNWPBR

    PNWPBR Good Dog

    Can you please clarify for me..... is AFF now bringing charges against you for libel as well as the threads on this forum?
     
  6. kiaransimba

    kiaransimba Good Dog


    I agree with Edogz!!

    I can't believe that she is still after you guys. She has the dog what more could she possibly want besides the $$$. JMO this is just grasping
     
  7. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    Simms: I need to see the contract before I comment.

    I did recieve an email from Kim this morning. It seems that some individuals are slandering this forum's name by saying we are dogfighters and BYBs.

    Carina: I would really suggest that you stop bullying people and set your attentions on Hondo, now that you've taken him from his loving home. You really disgust me.'
     
  8. Miakoda

    Miakoda GRCH Dog

    Carina, get a life. I know you are reading this and I know you are secretly scared that your reputation is ruined. Well, you are probably right however YOU are the reason why it is ruined.....if you even had a decent one to start with.

    As for libel, this is the internet...the virtual world of free speech. Nothing was said in this thread that would hold up in a court of law for libel. We are all entitled to our beliefs and we are also entitled to speak those beliefs. The only people who don't like the 1st Ammendment are those who are low-lifes and are afraid that the truth will force others to see them in a new light and for what they truly are.
     
  9. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    Can you email to me the contract that you filled out?:) Is it identical to the foster agreement in the link you provided above?
     
  10. Chiapit

    Chiapit Big Dog

    Wow, Carina just digs herself in deeper and deeper...she really just doesn't know when to quit.
     
  11. For Hondo

    For Hondo Puppy

    Hi folks,

    Carina continues to threaten us. It makes me wonder where she gets the time and money. Oh wait, I guess that's where we come in.
     
  12. For Hondo

    For Hondo Puppy

    When I asked mvette2u why she had been going out of her why to provide inaccurate information about me on this forum, I received this comments about the forum:

    Give me a flipping break. Do you think I was born yesterday??? I know of TWO reputable breeders from the forums and Marty isn't one of them.
    And he's the FOUNDER of this forum, the one you enlisted in your rage about this dog.
    Marty doesn't even health test his dogs. He keeps them chained and calls their frustration about being ON chains "working the chain". Ever hear of Dogs Deserve Better?? OH yes you guys have, I remember, because you hate the founder of THAT, too!
    You need to really need to wake up and smell the coffee.
    Here's what another forum member (elsewhere of course, not in his little fan clubs) had to say about him: he's one of those guys who rides both sides of the fence--buds with the dog fighters, buds with some of the pet people. he's got nice-looking dogs, but he's not someone i think of as highly concerned about the code of ethics stuff
    Hell, his other forum is even more obvious - "Game-dog.com"????
    So tell me, WHY should anyone even take what he or his lame-ass buddies who are living "pre 1976" (dog fighting laws enacted in the US) think of ANYTHING??? Believe it or not, not everyone worships Marty or his breeding practices, OR how he keeps his dogs.
    This same board belittles animal rights groups and ONLY chose to gang up on Carina after they spotted a PETA link on her website - PETA who does a wonderful service getting the word out about animal atrocities going on - hey that's a thought - I wonder how PETA would react to Marty's wonderful "yard"??? Hmmm....
    Now - stay OUT of my email box, Kim, and ALL your friends.
    Stop the harassment and stop enlisting others on your behalf.. It's sh*t like this that motivated Animals First, I'm sure, to confiscate the dog from you.
    Ironically you accuse Carina of doing this same thing and yet, here you are...HMMM....


    I would really think more highly of you if you hadn't turned to a bunch of loser dog fighters and BYBs (back yard breeders) just to try to get more people on your side.
    You really lost a lot of points with me when you did that (and still are doing it)
    :-(


     
  13. megschristina

    megschristina Moderator

    Well that email certainly makes them look good. *rolls eyes*. I get sick everytime I Hear more of Carina, and her friends and or alternate personalities bs.
     
  14. Chiapit

    Chiapit Big Dog

    Well, and yet msvette2u is a member here....hmmm...can we say two faced...sounds like her and Carina are two peas in a pod.



     
  15. PNWPBR

    PNWPBR Good Dog

    Oh EXCUSE ME?!


    Yvette and Carina, I will write this publicly ONE time and ONE time only so listen up.

    Being a community with our dogs best interest in mind, we also have the right to be individuals and make up our own minds and not "follow the herd." Because we welcome differed POV's and lifestyles does not in ANY WAY say we encourage, welcome or agree with dog fighting. Next time you want to make an accusation of that type I suggest you bring PROOF.

    Now secondly, are you then saying Yvette that my association with this community is saying that I and PNWPBR support dog fighting and BYBrs? Please if so id love to hear it and this thread is open to give you that opportunity to say so.

    Carina, freedom of speech is a bitch isnt it? We as rescuers have reputations that we must guard and always remember that our actions are viewed under a microscope by the general public. That being said, always think before you act because if someone disagrees, you can bet the world is going to know about it. I myself have learned that and know what? It sucks, but you MOVE ON! There are worse things in life than being smashed on an internet forum and wasting time, money and resources on a lawsuit surrounding it is absolutely insane not to mention petty and childish.

    Granted what I have written will make no difference in the scheme of thing and will certainly fall on deaf ears, not to mention give Yvette something else to say bad about PNWPBR..... but as is life. Yvette I do find it funny that you are a member here, yet you say the things you say. Maybe you should "go back to your forum" as you so nicely put it on PBF the other day?

    And please, dont email me again either. After the shit and drama you caused last year and your campaign against PNWPBR have I ever received an apology from you? Nope. Have I gone forum to forum smearing A Paw Up? Nope. Do you pretend that it all never happened? Yup. Will you ever admit you were wrong and apologize to me? I doubt it.
     
  16. For Hondo

    For Hondo Puppy

    Hi PNWPBR,

    I'm sorry that this happened to you with Yvette. I asked her why she can't focus on doing something productive instead of attacking others, making blanket statements and stereotypes about thousands of people she knows nothing about. Of course, I never heard back from her.
     
  17. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    Msvette has been banned from this forum.
     
  18. maryellen

    maryellen Good Dog

    maybe For Hondo should file a countersuit for harassement against carina and her rescue?
     
  19. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator


    I agree with this.

    Also, Carina is trying to make the Fishburns sign a document requesting that they refrain from talking about this on any forum. I already told them not to sign any such document. It's ridiculous!
     
  20. PNWPBR

    PNWPBR Good Dog

    How would she make them? Is this something a judge is requesting? If not, then Kim doesnt have to do anything Carina asks (tells) her to. :no2:
     

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