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Hello fellow pittie parents

Discussion in 'Health & Nutritional Care' started by MeloNate, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. MeloNate

    MeloNate Puppy

    I need help with some mild blue pitbull skin problems.
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    My 14 month old Blue female had mild hives/ or maybe mosquito bites this may when the weather heated up. Prednisone cured them right away but as soon as the pred stopped they came back. The bumps never bother her. They’re just cosmetic. I didn’t want to continue with pred long term so I switched to a raw diet. There aren’t really new bumps and her coat looks nice and shiny but the places where the bumps were turned scaly and bald. There are about 15 small bald dots and 4-5 larger ones as seen. It depends on the lighting to see them. There’s also some overall thinning of hair but it’s not bad. In addition to the raw diet (3rd week) I’ve used chlorhexadine, benzoyl peroxide and anti fungal and yeast shampoos for a week and a half. Should I see results by now or give it more time? Next step is internal antibiotics. Other thoughts? Thanks so much!
     
  2. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    I've moved your thread to the Health and Nutrition Forum.
     
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  3. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member Administrator Super Moderator Moderator Premium Member

    Most likely an allergy to something in it's environment or food. Nustock or Corona ointment will help to promote hair growth back in those bald spots fairly quickly.

    Do you use carpet fresh powder on your carpets? I only ask because I've seen the hives and sporadic hair loss 2 times here over the years, 1 time was a food allergy and the other was because I use carpet fresh on my carpets before I vacuum. Dog had a reaction very similar to what your dog is showing. Stopped using it and problem went away.

    Blue colored dogs tend to be susceptible to many different skin issues.
     
  4. MeloNate

    MeloNate Puppy

    Thanks for the tips. I’m pretty sure it’s an allergic reaction to mosquito bites (my legs got bitten up this season) and/or seasonal pollen or plant allergies. She was on a grain free salmon kibble TotW salmon puppy her whole life. I only switched to raw as a rule out. Her raw diet consists of chicken legs, beef liver, fish oil capsules, flax seed capsules, and a little carrots. I don’t think she’s allergic to any of the raw ingredients as her coat has gotten better with no really new bumps, just the left over damage from the prior bumps.
    The only thing we use on the carpet is pure un scented baking soda.
     
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  5. MeloNate

    MeloNate Puppy

    I hadn’t heard of Nustock so I just researched it and it seems similar to MTG oil. I was considering trying that. Are they similar?
     
  6. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member Administrator Super Moderator Moderator Premium Member

    I've never used the oil but I've used Nustock many times over the years and it works very well for most any reason there is hair loss.
     
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  7. MeloNate

    MeloNate Puppy

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    Just noticed more prominently in certain lighting there’s dozens of the patchy shadowy areas of hair loss in addition to the more prominent bald spots. Does this help with a more accurate diagnosis? Looking more like demodectic mange?
     
  8. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    When Tonka gets, "crusties," as Dermatology says it, it is a staph infection. Antibacterial shampoo is helpful and a good one that protects the skin layers is Duoxo Chlorhexidine shampoo. This can be from environmental allergies, other allergies, or even internal parasites. Is your dog itchy? Does your dog roll around in the grass? We have to wipe Tonka down after going on grass. We use a damp wet cloth and are very carefull to wipe down her paws and whole body and then we pat everything with a dry cloth as well. We've been dealing with this for 7 yrs. now. I do hope you will do everything possible to stay off of long term steroid use. Tonka's health has really been affected by them. The cytopoint injection is good if your dog is allergic and itchy during certain times per year.
     
  9. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    If you are still feeding raw it might be a good idea to add a multivitamin with minerals to the diet. Thorne or Vetriscience, etc. Some people have luck with Nupro powder or a supplement called RX Essentials, I think?
    Tonka's coat looked like that too and she had Demodectic Mange and Generalized Ringworm. A monthly dose of Bravecto takes care of Demodex now. I hope your dog is on a heartworm preventative as well?
     
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  10. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    Here you can see their coats are very similar. Tonka is 9 now. She has balding on her back and the top of her head.
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  11. MeloNate

    MeloNate Puppy

    She’s not itchy at all. Everything seems cosmetic at this point. She’s on bravecto but is due for her next dose next week. I’m been bathing her in a Chlorhexadine shampoo and a benzoyl peroxide shampoo for about a week and a half. I haven’t noticed any improvements. I started with Nustock a few days ago. She looks like a pastel yellow hyena.
     
  12. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    I would not use the peroxide shampoo. Duoxo Chlorhexadine shampoo should be sufficient. Very important to leave it on for the full 10 min. and rinse for at least 10 min. Also, you want to make sure you don't make the water too warm. Dry the arm pits, groin area, and in between toe pads really well. Tonka was on Cephalexin repeatedly until she became very ill. They had to do a skin culture to see which antibiotic would kill her skin infection and it turned out to be Baytril. She had to take a pretty high dose for several weeks. That has really been the only antibiotic that has helped her.
     
  13. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    Do you live in the southwestern USA also?
     
  14. MeloNate

    MeloNate Puppy

    Interesting. Why stop the benzoyl peroxide shampoo? Just too much experimenting at once?
    We’re in Southern California.
     
  15. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    The anti-bacterial shampoo should be sufficient. How often are you bathing her?
     
  16. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

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  17. MeloNate

    MeloNate Puppy

    3x/week. Letting it sit for the full 10 minutes.
     
  18. MeloNate

    MeloNate Puppy

    In your experience, how long should it take to see results? I’m applying every other day after a chlorhexadine bath.
     
  19. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    Can you take the dog to vet for a skin scraping?
     
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  20. MeloNate

    MeloNate Puppy

    I have an apt Monday. Since she’s not suffering at all and it’s just cosmetic, I figured I’d try a few things first.
     
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