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grain free to kibble with grains?

Discussion in 'Health & Nutritional Care' started by Nat Ursula, Mar 25, 2019.

  1. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    after years of avoiding grains for our health challenged Tonka girl the Dermatologist is pretty sure her severe allergies are due to tree pollen. That being said, it appears she can eat a lot of different things and not have issues. Does that mean it would be okay to try kibble with grains like Fromm?

    Teddy on the other hand has had a lot of gut and allergy issues. I bought Fromm classics for him one time which contained chicken and brown rice and he got very itchy very quickly. He has very teary eyes when the outdoor allergy forecast is very high. His gut is very sensitive. Sometimes he can handle a soft boiled egg and sometimes he can't. He ate the marrow from a beef bone one time with no problems at all. He eats a small amount of cooked calf liver weekly and doesn't seem to have any problems with it.
     
  2. Pitbullmom1

    Pitbullmom1 Big Dog

    I avoided grains for a long time too cause of my old guy having ibd but I decided to go back to grains and he’s done well but I would still get a high quality food like Fromm or I’ve been using Victor Professional and it’s so cheap too compared to the grain food
     
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  3. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    I think Tonka would love Victor Professional! I looked at it so many times. I had Fromm in mind though. Thanks for responding.
     
  4. brindle

    brindle Little Dog

    I tend to rotate kibbles trying to stay with better quality ones with a lower protein level not over 28%. I am not keen on the grain free ones and recent studies have pointed to a link between heart problems and grain free kibbles. I've feed high quality kibbles with some rice and grains with good results. I like to see at least 2 meats in the first 5 ingredients.

    I've feed Fromm and was happy with it, it has a good reputation. I also read about some of the Victor formulas and they sound pretty decent quality too. I also feed half raw too so that helps, plus adding salmon oil and coconut oil. Plus some whole milk plain yogurt… dog eats well!
     
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  5. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    Thanks Brindle, which Fromm do you feed?
     
  6. brindle

    brindle Little Dog

    Just saw this… It's been a busy week. I've fed Fromm Puppy Gold when mine was a pup, but I feel the 27% protein is a bit high for most adult dogs --

    https://frommfamily.com/products/dog/gold/dry/#puppy-gold

    The Adult Gold formula is very similar --

    https://frommfamily.com/products/dog/gold/dry/#adult-gold

    I also fed this one, the Hasen Duckenpfeffer, in winter as it is also a higher protein and is a "grain free" kibble and I only fed one small bag of it --

    https://frommfamily.com/products/dog/four-star/dry/#hasen-duckenpfeffer

    Their Classic line is decent too --

    https://frommfamily.com/products/dog/classic/dry/#adult
     
  7. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    Hi Brindle, thanks, I tried giving Teddy the Fromm Classic when we first got him and he got extremely itchy right away. I didn't know if it was the chicken or the brown rice. I still don't know? I mixed in the Hasen Duckenpfeffer one time and I really liked it. However, my husband thought it wasn't agreeing with Teddy and I can't remember why. I'm thinking of getting it again. Anyways, one problem with Fromm is that their kibble is so tiny. I just bought a 4lb. bag of Fromm 4 Star Game Bird and I'm really disappointed at how small the kibble is. It is smaller than the Hasen D. I'm considering getting a small bag of the Fromm Gold for large breed dogs (green bag).
     
  8. phillysmom

    phillysmom Good Dog

    Look up dilated cardiomyopathy in dogs and draw your own conclusions.
     
  9. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    oh I know that is why I want to make the change.
     
  10. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Administrator

    Check out Muenster Ancient Grains. I feed the chicken and pork. If I run out, I substitute with Victor.
    You can get Muenster on their site, but Amazon is cheaper by a few bucks. Subscribe to their email and know when they are having a sale. Black Friday was a buy one, get one free sale.
     
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  11. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    thanks Vicki.
     

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