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NE: Gov Signs Law Banning Animal Fighting Paraphernalia

Discussion in 'Dog Ordinances & Laws' started by Vicki, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Administrator

    The HSUS Praises Neb. Governor for Signing Law Banning Animal Fighting Paraphernalia
    The Humane Society of the United States commends Gov. Dave Heineman for signing L.B. 252 into law. The new law, which prohibits the possession of animal fighting paraphernalia, was sponsored by Sen. Abbie Cornett, R-Bellevue.

    Media-Newswire.com) - The Humane Society of the United States commends Gov. Dave Heineman for signing L.B. 252 into law. The new law, which prohibits the possession of animal fighting paraphernalia, was sponsored by Sen. Abbie Cornett, R-Bellevue.

    "This law bans possession of the tools required for the repugnant animal fighting trade," said John Goodwin, manager of animal fighting issues for The HSUS. "We praise Governor Heineman, the legislature, Senator Cornett, and the Nebraska and Capital Humane Societies for helping to strip animal fighters of the paraphernalia necessary to conduct their vile activities."

    L.B. 252 now makes it illegal to possess equipment, products and materials used in the training, preparation, conditioning or furtherance of the pitting of an animal against another. This includes razor-sharp knives that are strapped to the heels of roosters in cockfights, adrenalin-boosting drugs, blood clotting agents, dogfighting pits and specialized treadmills used to build up a dog's endurance prior to a fight.

    The Legislature passed L.B. 252 Friday by a vote of 40 to 1. Complete bill language can be found on the Nebraska Legislature Web site.

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  2. Zeus'Mom

    Zeus'Mom Puppy

    While I agree that someone who you know is fighting dogs, but haven't actually seen or have an eye witness to the dogs fighting should be able to be arrested, but I see this as becoming a problem for responsible dog owners. I know that treadmills and spring poles are on the list of things that cops look out for in the city, but I also know a lot of dog owners (not just pit bull owners) who utilize these instruments purely for exercise. This law can be a good thing, but I do have my concerns about this law being taken to far.
     
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  3. ccourtcleve

    ccourtcleve Little Dog

    Sorry but this is plain ridiculous. Treadmills, etc are used by many responsible owners and should not land anyone in jail. A leash and collar can be used in training a dog to "fight" so why not ban those too?
     
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  4. hogar

    hogar Good Dog

    This is a BS law I am against dog fighting but most dog fighting equipment is basic conditioning equipment as well. I agree a dog fighting pit in the backyard should be cause for concern but tread mills spring poles even sutures and numbing agents as a part of a basic first aid kit is no indication of dog fighting. This is a fine line and I will say it again I think if the person is caught dog fighting throw the book at him but suspicion is ridiculous. because anyone conditioning a dog for Shows weight pull or just to keep a healthy dog can fall under the suspicious guide lines
     
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  5. simms

    simms Good Dog


    To bad so sad! These laws affect us all, no matter what spoon fed bullshit one chooses to swallow!
     
  6. chas1022

    chas1022 Puppy

    Treadmills

    I guess Ceasar has dogfighting equipment then.I mean just cause someone has a treadmill doesn't mean shit.I can see this being taken way out of context. Next will be books and harnesses.
     
  7. Budboy88

    Budboy88 Good Dog

    books related to APBTs and weightpull harnesses have been used as "dog fighting" evidence before its nothing new
     
  8. jeoestreich

    jeoestreich GRCH Dog

    Man, what a bullshit law.
     
  9. XXX

    XXX Good Dog

    What the hell??? How do you know someone is fighting dogs of you haven't actually seen them or have an eye witness?? What the hell do you think is currently going on.... Floyd Bourdreaux, Pat Patrick, Ed Faron, Harry hargrove.... ALL of them had dogs taken and killed and not one eye witness had them as matching dogs recently!!! its bullshit like what you're saying that gets people hurt and dogs killed.



     
  10. Zeus'Mom

    Zeus'Mom Puppy

    And what spoon fed bullshit is it that I've swallowed? I'm not the only one on here who thinks that this law will become a problem for responsible pit bull owners. So please, why don't you actually elaborate.
    In Baltimore city, where I live, they can not charge someone with dog fighting unless the police, AC, or someone else witnesses the fight taking place. If they know, but haven't seen it, all the police can do is charge the person with animal cruelty (if they have a dog who has been involved in a fight) and we all know that is just a slap on the wrist really. That is why I made that comment. I realize that this is not the case everywhere, but that's the way they do things where I'm from. It takes police a long time and lot of tips in order to actually bust someone for dog fighting in Baltimore.
     
  11. magdalena

    magdalena Good Dog

    I assume they mean slat treadmills? I hope they don't start coming into houses looking for gym equipment next.
     
  12. simms

    simms Good Dog

    I've said it before and I am happy to say it again. If you have ever supported any of the AR or humane legsitlation. You helped pass this bill indirectly or even directly lol. As thier intent is to fool the mass the goal is the same...that is to eradicate the breed one dog at a time. So when you support dogfighting legistlation it has all the possibility's of the trickle down affect as they keep the language loose enough to affect even the "responsible APBT owners". It's just a matter of time before they get the petbulls too.
     
  13. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I believe that's a good law. Unless the person is actually caught in the pit, there is no way to say for sure whether the dog was being fought, or if it had just gotten into a yard accident. So, I am for laws that the person has to be caught in the act to be charged with dog fighting.

    How often in the news do we see dogs that do appear to be neglected or abused, but the media jumps on the "possible dog fighting case"?
     
  14. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

    You're confusing charging and convicting. They can charge you for whatever they want, then 'prove' it later.

    DogFighting
    Baltimore City Health Department
    From a group in georgia:
    End Georgia Dog Fighting - Best Friends Network

    All of the above is why I don't want ANY laws that says it's ok for ANYONE to just call and say "yup they're dogfighting".
    It's a lose-lose situation. I don't want stupid people illegally and improperly fighting their dogs, but I also don't want stupid people calling the cops to get a reward about people that aren't doing anything. :no2: There's no happy medium here.
    More laws equal more people telling me what I can and cannot do with my dogs. Most of these laws are founded on lobbyists or improper information from "experts", or both. And I CERTAINLY don't want some scumbag debt ridden punk calling the cops on me just so the HSUS can send him $5,000 when I've convicted of dogfighting for having a breakstick and a treadmill.
    Get what I'm saying?
     
  15. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    This just INFURIATES me to no bloody end. :mad:
     
  16. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Wow, Liliana. Those are horrible.

    I was telling my Mom about some of the HSUS dirty tricks tonight, she couldn't believe it.
     
  17. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    I'm just waiting for the day they decide that banning leashes and collars is next on their agenda, after all, restraining a dog makes it vicious, as well as being a sign of their slavery to humans. All dogs should be running loose and FREE and WILD! After all, the domestication of animals in itself is cruelty. :rolleyes:
     
  18. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Yeah, they will come up with some way to get domestic animals completely extinct.
     
  19. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    Exaclty.
     
  20. Zeus'Mom

    Zeus'Mom Puppy

    I think you might have misunderstood the intent of my first comment. I in fact directly said that responsible dog owners use many techniques used by dog fighters and that it can be an indirect way to ban a specific breed. Given the current laws in my area, I agree that there should be some sort of way in which law enforcement shouldn't have to directly witness a dog fight to convict an individual with the charge. I personally have run against many pits or other fighting breeds that I've reported anonymously to authorities that I've strongly suspected of dog fighting (no reward received), and yet I've always gotten the same old song and dance. I used to live in a rather "ghetto" area of baltimore city where events such as dog fighting were not uncommon to hear/witness, yet even these types of things were not enough to charge a person with such an event.

    While there is the part of me that agrees that unless you are caught red handed or can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, I know how these people operate. They specifically operate in a manner in which they aim at not being caught. This includes the pits that you hear about either in shelters or rescues being thrown from windows in order to try to prevent tracing the dogs back to an individual. It includes stolen pits in the city which are used for fighting and are not/less successful than they expected. I agree one hundred percent that police can be suspicious of any pit owner, but there is a difference between a police suspicion and guilt.

    I'm not confusing the two at all. I realize that the current situation is written with loopholes, but police in baltimore are actually very careful about their charges/raids/etc. This may be due to the fact that so many people in the city own pits or pit mixes of some variety or another. They unfortunately make up the majority of dogs in the shelters.

    agreed. I don't think it's right to be able to just call in a false tip, let alone a false tip on any pit owner. This may be because I worded things wrong, but the reward is not just for any tip, but for any tip that actually leads to an arrest. Police in Baltimore actually spend months to years investigating potential dog fighting before they are able to make arrests. You only receive the money if the person is charged with dog fighting, that means either the police or an eye witness sees the dogs fighting.



    I agree that more laws is not the way to settle anything, no matter what the nature of the issue is. Hence why I suggested foreseeing people abusing this law, especially law enforcement.

    My only other point besides the law being abused, was that in my area, we could actually use something that allowed police to arrest people whom they knew were guilty of dog fighting without ever actually seeing it. In the city there are enough responsible pit/pit mix owners that you can tell the difference. But as the law currently stands, even fighting paraphernalia (no matter what breed of animal) doesn't land you in any trouble. And of course when I say paraphernalia, I mean things such as fighting rings, and whelping pits, or razored roosters, etc. I mean for fucks sake, when an actual eye witness isnt' enough most of the time (as the case is in baltimore) I don't know what is. The last dog fighting ring in baltimore to be brought down was only done so because drugs were involved and DEA agents happened to bust them while a dog fight was in progress.

    I do worry about laws such as the one being passed being abused, as was clearly stated in my first post, but I also agree that actually witnessing a fight is often far more difficult and involves more dogs being abused and killed than is necessary.
     

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