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Fur Color Charts For APBTs/AmStaffs

Thanks for the links! I can't quite tell if Cocoa is red brindle or mahogany brindle... they appear to be quite close. I'll probably go with red brindle because it's easier to type. ;)
 

Stormravyn

Banned
Does the UKC/ADBA frown upon merle dogs because they are not purebred bulldogs? Why is it that almost every merle APBT I have seen has one blue eye? Is merle a birth defect or skin problem? Should merle dogs even be bred? I have heard they have bad eye sight and they dont see very well at night.


I recently had a gorgeous grey merle Catahoula who was the smartest dog I ever owned. That said...
Both Merle coloring and blue eyed APBT dogs carry a recessive gene that leads to puppies born deaf, blind, etc... too many genetic abnormalities. I am no expert but I was JUST looking this up extensively last night, as I have two blue eyed puppies that I found out have a decent chance of retaining the blue color, and I needed to know why it is so frowned upon. I knew white faced, or 80% white faced dogs, especially with blue eyes or Albinism, have a MUCH better chance of being deaf or having unilateral hearing, but as mine are chocolate red nose, and black, with little white on them, I did not suspect this was the answer, but it is. They want to severely discourage breeding in these dogs so as to not perpetuate the recessive gene. :nono:
 

BCdogs

Good Dog
Super Moderator
I recently had a gorgeous grey merle Catahoula who was the smartest dog I ever owned. That said...
Both Merle coloring and blue eyed APBT dogs carry a recessive gene that leads to puppies born deaf, blind, etc... too many genetic abnormalities. I am no expert but I was JUST looking this up extensively last night, as I have two blue eyed puppies that I found out have a decent chance of retaining the blue color, and I needed to know why it is so frowned upon. I knew white faced, or 80% white faced dogs, especially with blue eyes or Albinism, have a MUCH better chance of being deaf or having unilateral hearing, but as mine are chocolate red nose, and black, with little white on them, I did not suspect this was the answer, but it is. They want to severely discourage breeding in these dogs so as to not perpetuate the recessive gene. :nono:

Merle does not exist in the APBT. And someone with knowledge of genetics, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it impossible for a liver dog to have black markings?
 
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NobodyHere

Guest
isn't it impossible for a liver dog to have black markings?

Yes, it's impossible. I'm assuming the person meant that they own two dogs, one being liver and the other being black, both with white markings.

Stormravyn, blue eyes don't "lead to" puppies being deaf or blind. You have mutts, so what is written in the standard for a particular breed doesn't apply to you. Since the puppies aren't breeding quality, what they may or may not carry doesn't matter, so the only thing that does matter is whether either of those puppies themselves actually has hearing issues. If you're worried about it, shell out the money to have them BAER tested. If they're not deaf, they're not going to magically become deaf later on because they have blue eyes. Problem solved.
 
This is Rico his mother is a red rednose. His father red white black nose. Has Rico than also the rednose gen? None of the puppy s in this nest. Had a red nose. 4 pups were black, 2 white with red, one red with white on his chest.( sorry for my englisch) 20190522_191230.jpg IMG-20190523-WA0005.jpg