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For the Non Believers

Discussion in 'American Bully' started by GME, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    that's cool, and no offense but breeding for companions is retarded. go to a shelter for a companion, sure not every dog my dogs' produce will go to working homes, but the point of breeding is to produce better working dogs.
    Also dave doesn't have control of what may have been done with 100% re dogs after they went to some one else. it's cool if he only used apbt/amstaff though
    also it's retarded that there is an ambully lifestyle. lolololol
     
  2. Budboy88

    Budboy88 Good Dog

    i nominate you for the most idiotic statement of the year.....

    the only blue gamebred dog ive ever seen in my life is NCPGs Folsom
     
  3. GME

    GME Little Dog

    Well i think the lifestyle came about when ppl like you continue to ridicule us for our tastes in dogs. However, he also talks about having drive, Cruz(one of the RE founders) bred for a companion, that specialized in personal protection. I think you are seriously misunderstanding wat they mean by companion. But I do have to say it is not the most eloquent writing, just wanted to share it.

    Thanks i appreciate it... when I say have seen, i mean ppl trying to sell blue dogs in my area they are of game origin, not RE or bully origin... Sorry to have misused my words, but you need too start watching yours, callin me names is somethin u rele dnt wanna do.

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    What type of work do your dogs do?
     
  4. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    anythingg. they've worked bulls, killed coyotes, anything of the sort, in all all honesty i love big dogs and what to produce big dogs that have working ability, and because i want huge dogs i don't call them apbt's. when they are probably more apbt than most bullies. Also, i plan on using them as catchdogs.
     
  5. vdubbinya

    vdubbinya Little Dog

    every dog is a companion....working or not....our dogs excel in companionship, to the same standard an apbt would be, theres really no difference besides the DA. apbt is the cream of the crop when it comes to an all out athletic dog. that's not what the bully was bred for. stop relating, yes they are related, just not intended for the same purpose.
     
  6. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    i'm saying it's dumb to breed pets. just pets. to prduce whole litters of pets. there is no point in it, at least no point worthy of breeding. i love a lot of ambully and i am online friends with a lot of ambully breeders, but i still think it's a shame to breed pets especially when you sell these pets for thousands of dollars. MY DOGS ARE PETS, but they can also work. when i say pet here, i'm talking about nothing else, just your buddy dog, my dogs are my buddy dogs, but they can work too. well hell 2 of them are only 9 weeks so not yet. lol. I'm not saying they aren't good companions, but if you're like to hell with showing, to hell with working, let's breed quality companion animals...if you only care about pet dogs, open a shelter.
     
  7. GME

    GME Little Dog


    Ok well in that sense we are not breeding companion animals because we pride ourselves in showing out dogs. But in the bully circles I am in, there is a lot of hog hunting and A LOT!!!! of personal protection.. Does this count for a working dog?
     
  8. vdubbinya

    vdubbinya Little Dog

    to say that a american bully family pet cannot work is (enter text here cuz i dont want to offend because i like you) . You can have the fastest car in the world but if u cant drive its just a waste.
     
  9. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    i didn't say that. i said that the motivation behind the breeding is a very good reason to breed. if have a working bully, which hell my dog could be considered (watchdog/winegarner) take it to another bully that can work and do the same with the pups and have a strain or working bullies. sounds bad ass to me.
     
  10. vdubbinya

    vdubbinya Little Dog

    i understand what your saying now, i think i misinterperted. Some breeders breed based off looks. i know thats wrong. but just because a breeder breeds with good intentions, u dont always know what your getting. you could breed two dogs that u didnt think would produce shyt and produce a once in a lifetime breeding. i dont know anything about breeding, that's for ppl who do it. at the end of the day, a dog is a dog. They can work. what do we need working dogs for in todays society ? im perfectly content with my family companion, i dont need any working titles to be happy :D but i understand what your saying, understand your point of view.
     
  11. Miakoda

    Miakoda GRCH Dog

    I'm just curious how one "knows" for a fact that their pet can work if it has never been worked. People talk about their pit bull being able to be a good catch dog if they wanted it to be and/or gave it a chance, but it doesn't just work like that. And actual proper PP dogs are NOT a dime a dozen. Sure, many can turn a dog into an unstable and aggressive "protection" dog with some crap-method street training, but very few dogs out of all those bred for protection work and Schutzhund work actually end up being good at it and only a handful are truly great.
     
  12. vdubbinya

    vdubbinya Little Dog

    i sure as hell dont know for a fact pike can work haha :D i know he has lots of stamina and is really good at playing! He doesnt have much drive, but im not that great @ training so i wouldnt know where to start to try to put him in a sport. Do i think he has the physical capability? yes. Do i know he has the metal capability? No, hes never been tested. Without testing, you will never know. that's why i said, you can have the fastest car in the world, but if you dont/cant drive it you would never know.
     
  13. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    i plan on training my puppies in personal protection and catching hogs. hopefully they excel.

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    also, people in today's society, rural wise, still need working dogs for various things. there is still a need for them out there. vermin eradication, hog catching, cattle work.
     
  14. vdubbinya

    vdubbinya Little Dog

    i know the obvious working, but i mean every family doesnt have a dog like the old days that they RELY on a daily basis.
    unless you have a seeing eye dogs and sorts that's a whole different discussion.
     
  15. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    i know. i couldn've registed my dogs as apbts with the nkc or ckc or some place like that and probably sold them a lot quicker, because people are far more interested in having a "pit bull" that isn't one at all, than having a working dog with an honest title. that's why GK bred bandogges and registered them as apbt, and formed a hugely successful line in the "XL APBT" bully world. because nobody cares what they really have if it's huge and called a pit bull it sells. so really the pet breeders have taken over the market through the bully fad, but i still think breeding should be left to working dogs. or at least show dogs. i hope you can see how this applies.
    in short i'm saying family dogs sell better too, but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, even though working dogs have less of a demand, at least the parents proved them self at something.
     
  16. 444

    444 Big Dog Premium Member

    When breeding a qualified pair,whether it be working dogs,show dogs,whatever...you're going to end up with pet quality dogs in the litter.These pets are likely to have solid temperament and structure but may have a minor physical flaw or lack drive etc.

    If just breeding great pet dogs,I think you increase the chance of regressing with each generation,whether it be structure,temperament,etc.Think about natural selection,the best/strongest animals excel and are the ones that reproduce for a reason.
     
  17. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I would love to see some video of your dogs doing catch work, GME.
     
  18. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    in all honesty i'd love to see them do anything hard. i've seen bully guys be like "look at da drive on my foundation studz" and it be one chasin a ball for 2 minutes hyperventalating. I've seen the lgk chase snowmobiles and quads, though. i'd really like to see one coyote hunt, catch, run with cattle, hard protection work.
     
  19. vdubbinya

    vdubbinya Little Dog

    ya'll a trip :D
     
  20. GME

    GME Little Dog


    Uhh... I never said my dogs do catch work?? I dnt think theres any hogs within 400 miles from my house, unless its @ the grocery store... I personlly have 1 female @ my house, the rest all belong to ppl I work with in our breeding program. My female will be starting her protection training in Feb.... If you would like to see some nice bullies working (dnt kno that they have videos) look for legend kennels Maka, actually all of legend kennels dogs... They are very very good @ personal protection... They dnt do schutzhund, they do more of the real world type of scenarios.
     

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