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Finally ready for a dog, but...

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by Blau, Mar 17, 2015.

  1. Blau

    Blau Big Dog

    Totally indecisive about where to go about obtaining one. I'm sure that's a hint I should probably wait a while before actually finding a pup, but since my GSD passed away from DM last year I've just been absolutely depressed about not having my own dog [which is also absolutely vital to sustaining my mental health]. I plan on probably importing a GSD at some point from actually reputable breeders, not interested in genetic diseases again, but I'd really like to finally get myself a bulldog now. I just have no clue from whom or where. Bully breeds are a dime in a dozen in shelters, I could easily go out and adopt one. But I'm also really iffy about getting another dog with unknown genetics. I live in SC, there are plenty of yards here I'm sure I could find if I did some looking, but honestly I'm not too impressed with what I've been seeing from some 'working bred' dogs... People breeding dogs with pretty papers who have done absolutely nothing and peddling them off. I guess my choice after that would be to just go with a good reputable working/showing breeder. That's another reason why I'm iffy about just finding a dog at a shelter- I plan on doing as many sports/activities as I can with this dog. I need a dog with guaranteed health, guaranteed drive. I want as few surprises as possible. Considering I work with animals for a living, an extremely trainable and drivey dog is something I need to help finally get myself involved in the professional training industry if we end up competing well.

    But yeah wondering if anyone else has been in this situation of indecisiveness about where to get their bully breed? I've been dying to get my bulldog for 6+ years now, used to go to a lot of shows and shit, and probably would try conformation again if I got this dog. But still, lots of perfectly nice dogs who could use a home from rescue?
  2. BCdogs

    BCdogs Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    I totally understand you wanting to go to an ethical breeder. Especially considering all of your plans for the dog, I would want more of a health & temperament guarantee as well. I love my mutts, but in the future, I will be doing the same. Too many worries about health issues, genetic anxieties, etc.

    My advice is to keep doing your research. Show season is here, go out and meet some breeders and their dogs. Tell them what you're looking for and find out what they have to offer. Go with your gut, if something doesn't feel right, it probably isn't.

    Good luck!
  3. Blau

    Blau Big Dog

    I'd love to try going to shows again, but unless I'm with someone or have a dog I think my anxiety would be way too bad. Also find the APBT community in the south east kind of aversive, lots of homophobes/transphobes and tbh I don't feel comfortable around a lot of those people ahah. I just have no clue where else to meet good breeders besides shows...
  4. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    Several friends of mine, and my kennel partner, attend UKC, ADBA and AADRI shows in NC and surrounding states and are LGBT neutral/friendly. I'd be happy to put you in touch with them if you want to send me a PM.
  5. Obed

    Obed Good Dog Premium Member

    Homophobe? Who cares what their problem is, just walk in like you belong, you do, don't you? Let them be the uncomfortable one.
    You are looking for a dog, not a date.
  6. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    I second what Obed said!!!

    Good luck with finding a dog and once you do, post pictures!!
  7. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Good Dog

    I totally understand that. I went to an ADBA show around here a long time ago and while I did find a nice group to sit with and hear stories from, I feel like if I hadn't been this nice "normal" looking white girl, I might have been treated differently. Now, I have dreads and piercings and whatnot but I can at least hide the fact that Im bi and atheist lol. I get the feeling that a lot of the old timers who have decent knowledge and experience and are willing to share it, are also your right wing, straight, whites who are against everything I stand for.

    Also totally understand the anxiety. I almost had a panic attack there. I went by myself and had no idea where to go or who to approach.
  8. Swolf

    Swolf Little Dog

    I think you both would be suprised to find what walking in with a little bit of book knowledge and a desire to learn will get you.
    I'm literally a barefoot hippie, I walked into my first ADBA show as a white girl with visable tattoos, piercings, dreadlocks, no shoes... A lot of people at my local fun show are like family and friends now, and the people they have helped me to meet further away have become friends and mentors. You might not see eye to eye on a lot of things, but you're there for the dogs right?

    Take a friend with an interest in the breed if you can. I commonly take a "service friend" with me for anxiety issues :lol:

    Networking online, while maybe not ideal to some, can be a good idea as well. I know I've personally contacted breeders with questions before or met dog people from knowledge groups and ended up meeting them in person later at shows or events- You've already learned a bit about one another and that makes that initial meeting easier.
  9. Blau

    Blau Big Dog

    SevinSins, I'll def shoot you a PM when I'm in a position to get myself a dog... Wish I could get one now but I'm only making chump change as a kennel tech at a vet clinic right now :/
    And yeah CrazyK9, I would definitely end up having a panic attack being around so many strangers all by myself. I don't really have any irl friends and don't know anyone into dog stuff, so I'm shit out of luck when it comes to having a buddy to go to places with lol. I would definitely go if I had friends though. I did the online networking thing years ago when I was younger, found that APBT people can really be assholes. Kind of expected I guess, we're here about dogs not so much people, but my past experiences with the APBT community has led to some major anxiety/paranoia and idk how I will get over it.
  10. Team Peanut

    Team Peanut GRCH Dog

    Dog people in general are assholes especially in sports. I have met a lot of good friends in sports but I know of a lot of people that I wouldn't know if I didn't have to. My advice is when you are ready start with a friend. I would not have started going out to events if I didn't have my family. I too suffer from pretty bad generalized and social anxiety (I don't even have a job because it's so bad) so I know how you feel about going out. Don't let anyone hate on you for who you are! I know dog sports are different then adba shows kind of but I will say I know many of people in dog sports that are lgbt community and they are accepted I even was invited to my good friends wedding last year thru dog sports and a lot of us attended their wedding. Just remember that you are doing this for you anyone that hates on you has their own problems to deal with and you are doing this to make yourself happier with a new dog. Good luck to you and can't wait to hear of your experience finding a new dog.
  11. Obed

    Obed Good Dog Premium Member

    I am an asshole, but I make allowances for people with dogs, bicycles, motorcycles and guns. Probably won't expand that list too much.
  12. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    There is a cool list for people looking for sports dogs. Some are pups and others are young-adults.

    If you want to go to a breeder, that's cool too. But remember this about the health testing: Many of the tests (like hip xrays) do not guarantee against the disorder, just lessen the chances. It is completely possible to get a dysplastic dog with heart disease from parents that both tested well. *Testing lessens the chances that the parents carry the genes responsible for the condition; it does not guarantee it.

    If by guarantee you mean the written contract of the breeder, you have to remember these things:
    1) Some require you return the dog. Can you return the dog you've had for months-years?
    2) Some offer to give you another pup/dog. Can you handle an additional dog?
    If the answer is "No" to both above, then the guarantee really won't help you much.

    Also, for when you get a GSD, I'd suggest looking into the DM test to find out exactly what is being tested for and its accuracy.
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 20, 2015
  13. Blau

    Blau Big Dog

    Thanks so much for that link, very helpful! And I'll def keep that in mind about health testing. I honestly need to do some more research into how it's done, admittedly I don't know too much about it. I guess guarantee wasn't the best word to use? "Hoping to have a dog who is likely to be extremely healthy" would have been better lol.

    And I will definitely be scrutinizing over every aspect of the next shepherd I get. Mine was backyard bred, apart from shitty front pasterns she actually had fairly decent conformation for a BYB American bred dog, but she had that typical nervousness of a poorly bred shepherd/also reinforced by poor handling on my part (13 year old thinking he could train his own GSD...), and I'm really looking forward to getting a dog with a solid temperament to start a good foundation on. Same for the APBT, but I'm a lot more picky with the shepherd lol.
  14. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    OK, well best of luck! I just wanted to give you info so you can make the best decision for you. A lot of the health tests are what I describe above but there are some that actually give you a yes/no answer.

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