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Euthanizing an animal aggressive dog. Right or Wrong?

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by SBTlove, May 4, 2011.

  1. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    Glad I'm not the only sap.:)
     
  2. Cynthia

    Cynthia Good Dog

    I agree with what has been already said.

    What we forget as "pit bull" owners is that most pet owners do not know, or do not want to deal with DA issues. What we accept as the norm is what most pet owners feel is the end of the world.

    My first reactions is that he is an idiot. But then common sense sets in and I realize that my situation with 14 dogs that would try and kill each other is not the norm. And most people/clients I run into in my profession think I am nuts or super owner to manage that many DA dogs.

    So yes in a perfect world the dog should not loose his life. And it is sad. But it is more humane than rotting in a shelter.
     
  3. SBTlove

    SBTlove Good Dog

    Well worse part dudes new dog, the one the old dog nearly killed is a purebred apbt according to the woman (though I saw pictures and that dog looks ambully to me), So I guess this mess could potentially happen again

    ---------- Post added at 09:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:09 AM ----------

    Very good point.
     
  4. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    I agree with everyone,if he knew he couldn't( i.e. was just too fucking lazy) to deal with the DA he should have had the dog PTS rather than let it go to a shelter.But SERIOUSLY he felt a hound dog needed to be "punished" for killing small animals?! What a worthless Fuck Wit moron,sounds like he doesn't need to have any dogs since he is obviously completely ignorant to the fact that dogs are animals and will behave as such.Fuck Wit!
     
  5. Dezzi

    Dezzi Big Dog

    ^This. All day.

    I would get a dog knowing it was DA.
    But, I can understand why the general public wouldn't- so they should look into another breed- and leave the "pit-bulls" the hell alone.
     
  6. Krista

    Krista Krypto Super Dog

    Do I think they should be euthanized? Of course not, but like everyone has said most people
    (The general public) wouldn't be able to handle a DA dog and contain them properly and if they can't being humanely euthanized is more humane than the dog wasting away in a kennel at the shelter.

    They would rather have a dog that got along with every animal out there, rather than a DA dog like the APBT.

    I do think if someone can't handle a DA dog and say they can when something happens and they are "shocked" when the dog's DA turns on, they shouldn't have got one in the first place.

    People need to be responsible and if they take on a DA dog, they need to know how to mange a multi-dog household by crating and rotating or making a proper chain spot.

    This is why people should do their research especially with the bully breeds. I think so many people get them because they want one, but have done zero research and the dog pays the price because of their ignorance. :no2:
     
  7. mykidshavetails

    mykidshavetails Little Dog

    Lol. This reminds me of how I ended up with my GSD. He was returned to the shelter at 5 months old for "being aggressive with their ferrets." Um...helllooooo??? It's a large breed PUPPY and you have living squeaky toys running around the living room!

    That being said, I would never surrender my hard-to-adopt dog to a no kill shelter (or any shelter). If my only choice was to euthanize or stick the dog in a kennel and let someone else kill them later, I would put on my big girl panties and put my dog down. It would suck, but I owe it to my dogs
     
  8. 6pack1%er

    6pack1%er Good Dog

    I see it as retarded that someone would cull a dog because it was being a dog.
     
  9. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog

    I agree with that...

    BUT...I also feel the same way when people PTS a dog for other normal dog behaviors that people tend to label HA; which clearly (at least to me, aren't) - instead of working with the dog through training and management to help it live in a human world by human rules.

    And since I think of both situations as essentially the same...I have the same opinion.

    I think it's sad, and I wonder about people who get dogs and then are disappointed when they act like...dogs; but I would never try to suggest to someone that they have to keep and manage an animal that they feel they aren't capable of or equipped to manage. If an appropriate home is available; that is the best of all possible solutions. Unfortunately, more often than not - an appropriate home is not available.
     
  10. Lotsapits

    Lotsapits Big Dog

    I think it is a huge waste to put a dog down that is doing nothing more than following instincts. Having said that, it is far better than being in a shelter. It is the kindest thing in the long run.
    I have no problem with DA dogs, and would rather them be DA as a matter of fact, but I am not the general public at large.
     

  11. I have to completely disagree, and here's why...

    That man obtained the dog for whatever reason.
    When the animal aggression came out it became undesirable to him.
    If at that point the man wanted to cull it, then it isn't anyones place but his own to make that decision.

    Now you all may agree or disagree, but bottom line it is his property to do with as he see's fit.

    If it is acceptable for a breeder to cull the undesirables, then the same should translate to a dog owner.
    That is far more responsible than pawning off your unwanted's to a shelter.

    Now in my own personal opinion, the guy shouldn't have obtained an APBT-Heeler mix in the first place.
    He obviously had no prior education on either breed.
    Euthanasia would have been the most responsible and kind decision IMO.


    No suffering at the hands of the shelter, and no monies to be made of the back of that animal by the H$U$ or similar org's if something news worthy should happen.
     
  12. Tahlz

    Tahlz Good Dog

    I defiantly don't think a DA should be put down. Though, if the owner was giving it up, probably would be better to be put down rather then be in a shelter.

    I don't mind owning a DA but I would NEVER go looking for one and I'd never adopt one. If I get the dog as a puppy and they grow up and become DA, fine, I'll deal with it but I don't want to deal with it by just picking out a dog that is DA.

    My last SBT, Guage became DA and I did have to re-home him because I couldn't handle him and I had to pick between Sunny and him. Sunny fit my life style and I was living at home (still am), I didn't know much about how to handle keeping them properly separate so one had to go. I was actually going to keep Guage but he ended up leaving so it was meant to be.

    I now own Serenity who is going to become DA I reckon =/.. She's more fearful of dogs then anything which turns into aggression. I don't mind, I can handle that and she gets on great with Sunny at the moment so it's all good, there a lot alike while Sunny and Guage were complete opposites. I know more then I did back then so I know both dogs will be staying til there time is up. I wont own another dog til one of them passes away or I move out.
     
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  13. K9 Love

    K9 Love Good Dog

    Agreed. Especially the bolded.

    I find it interesting that so many people can so easily say that the dog was just being a dog in this case, but in regards to "human aggression" everyone's quick to jump to the PTS red button. Now I understand HA is deeply frowned upon, as I think it should be in any breed, but I also think the label is thrown around quite loosely when IMO often enough those dogs are just being dogs too.

    While I think it's sad and no doubt there are dozens of people who could've managed that dog just fine, in reality there are too many problem dogs to go around and not enough people who know how to handle them or have room for them. I know of a particular dog in the Toronto no kill humane society that's been there for 3 years. He lives in solitary confinement, from humans even because he's become so aggressive, but they still won't put him out of his misery.

    The guy's a douchebag IMO, but when it comes to the dog, and his options, at least he's not rotting in a cell somewhere.
     
  14. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    I gotta agree. My friend and I were literally just having this conversation actually. One man's treasure is another man's cull. :lol:
     
  15. nukinfuts29

    nukinfuts29 Puppy

    It's not all black and white. I'm very pro-life with dogs because I feel most with aggression issues can be rehabilitated, but there are always exceptions. My old husky was a GREAT dog. Great with people, animals, the cats even slept with him at night. When he was 2 years old a dog at Petco (I don't believe in taking your dog into stores like these or to dog parks) bit him several times because that dogs owner was not paying attention or controlling her dog. My girlfriend never should have had him there, but i digress.

    Anyway after that he was different, even with the dogs he grew up with. He was very animal aggressive, and we spent and tried so much with different experts, people i know and respect, and nothing we did ever got him quite right. After a series of obedience classes and trials he finally seemed better. After months of rehab he was finally fixed.

    Or so we thought. Then six months later he tried to kill a 12 week old puppy and went after my GSD that he grew up with all in the same seconds. He succeeded in killing the puppy and shattered in GSD's jaw in four places. Why? Nobody knows. Obviously there are a lot of opinions but honestly, after several months of him not getting better we never should have trusted him. Ultimately we had him put down immediately following this incident. The GSD made a full recovery.

    I would love it if he went to a one-dog home or something, but how could i allow that? no matter how many ways i adopt him out and tell the people he has to be the only dog, i can't be sure they will listen to me. He could hurt another dog, or possibly even a small child. And a shelter? Yea thats a good plan (sarcasm). My point is just that sometimes, you have too.

    I didn't read the whole thread, i posted based off the title so i'm not addressing anyone here specifically.
     
  16. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog


    No shit. It was like with Deeohgee. She finally, after almost a year in rescue had someone who really SEEMED like they got it, understood her needs and were willing to deliver on fulfilling them. Then three years later the asshat is trying to ditch her on a small dog rescue. THANKFULLY the rescue scene is really tight here and we got her back. Turns out, this guy was taking her to dog parks, dog crowded beaches, etc... where she kept getting into scraps over sticks and balls, then he allowed her near their puppy when she had a toy {which is a HUGE no no as he was told as she is VERY toy possessive with other animals!} and she killed the puppy and suddenly SHE'S the bad dog. She is one of the main reasons I got out of rescue. People are freakin' stupid and there was NO WAY I was placing any more dogs if this is how things go, and that was the NORM with adopters, not the exception. Now Deeohgee will live out her life with us... people who GET IT and she'll be safe and other animals around her will be safe. I closed the circle after her......
     
  17. nukinfuts29

    nukinfuts29 Puppy

    People never listen. Everybody watches TV and decides they are an expert so why listen.
     

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