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E-collars

BCdogs

Good Dog
Super Moderator
Can anyone point me in the direction of some good articles regarding introducing and using an e-collar? I just ordered one for Squirt and I will be the first to admit that I have no idea how to use them appropriately. I'd rather get some advice from experienced handlers than try to sift through the endless (possibly incorrect) info on the net. I will be using it mainly for recall and possibly reactivity training as well.
 

_unoriginal

Cow Dog
No experience but try looking up Leerburg and Michael Ellis. They usually have some good info if you get away from Leerburg's old stuff that focuses heavily on Dominance Theory.
 
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pitbulldogs

OHMUHGERD
Staff member
I just bought one for Trin. I had bought just a regular bark collar and it worked great but i wanted more control over when the collar came on. So far, it has really helped iron out the few kinks Trin had.

Also for the record, i am all for corrective, assertive and i guess dominant training if the dog needs it. I think each dog is different and each dog needs a different approach.

PS: All she has to do now is hear the beep and the barking stops and so does all the craziness when people come over.
 

BCdogs

Good Dog
Super Moderator
I've been trying it out for the past few days. I don't use it just for corrections, I'm teaching Squirt that the vibration (haven't used stim yet) = reward for coming to me. So I use the vibrate randomly while saying "come" and compliance gets him food. He's loving it. His recall has already improved over distances.
 

Nat Ursula

Good Dog
I wonder if we should try that. Tonka will come on the first call if she thinks she will get food. However, she will take her time if she thinks she might not get anything.
 

pitbulldogs

OHMUHGERD
Staff member
Luckily Broly has a pretty solid recall for a puppy, Trin started that way also but then started not listening after she got a little older. I use the tone the second i have her attention, she looks around trying to figure out where it's coming from lol. Good thing is, that bark collar really toned the barking down by a pretty big margin and when it would stim it would also beep so now that i bought this new one with the remote, she just has to hear it now and she calms down.

Which model did you get BC?

Same with Trin, Nat. She usually has her nose to the ground and moseys on up when she wants to lol. Broly comes right away but i started him quicker than i did Trin.
 

BCdogs

Good Dog
Super Moderator
I got the Dogtra Element. It has a 1/2 mile range which I need, since I take them off leash way up in the mountains and they can wander pretty far.

Piggy's recall is pretty much infallible. It's crazy. I've called her off of deer, dogs, cows, people, squirrels, literally everything and she will never ignore me. I don't know how I got so lucky with her, but she's as close to perfect as it gets.

Squirt has great recall with minimal distractions. I can call him back over long distances no problem. But as soon as anything moves, all recall goes out the window. The e-collar is the perfect way to quickly get his attention again and break his focus. I'm hoping that I will eventually get him to a place where he can focus on me over distractions to recall.
 

Beret

Bullyflop
I use[d] an ecollar. Still brush up with it from time to time but, used correctly and on the right dog, it can be a great tool to utilize. I have a SportDog 425 and a Mini Educator. We've developed a bombproof recall and used it to refine those fleeting moments when the dogs likes to pretend he doesn't know how to walk politely.

It's definitely not something I would recommend to anyone who doesn't have a solid plan behind it coupled with a shaky idea of just how to properly use one. But I think you have your crap together enough to use one properly.
 

AGK

Scratch Kingz
Staff member
I had to read a little bit of this thread to get what one meant by an E-collar. Lol a E-collar is typically an Elizabethian Collar (sp?) Used to keep a dog from chewing a hot spot or surgical wound. The cone of shame I like to call them lol.

I use bark collars on my dogs and they work great, especially if you start when they are young, in my expierence with them, about 8 years now, they work on dogs of all ages but the younger ones tend to learn faster to avoid the correction but older dogs will also usually conform fairly quickly as well. Never used the manual ones as it only will work if your right there to do the correction. If you work then no one is there to correct the behavior so I never have used those ones. If they work for you that's great, use them. I prefer the automatic ones that will guage the bark and correct it appropriately. As far as using a remote collar for training, can't help you there, never used one. I find food to be the best training aid as most all dogs will learn quickly when food is the reward. Once they learn the command you ween them off the treat reward in place for vernal praise. I mean like treats not actually letting them eat If they do what you want them, to just to clarify lol. Good luck with your training. Hope it works for you!
 
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BCdogs

Good Dog
Super Moderator
Lol, I'm used to e-collars being cones too.

I'm not using it for barking at all, that's not a big issue with him. Mainly just recall.

Pretty amazing results so far. He has definitely made the connection between the vibrate/coming to me/being rewarded with food. I only have to actually press the button maybe half the time now. So he's already weaning off of it and figured out the connection in less than two weeks. I'm pretty impressed.
 

Susanne

Little Dog
St@ffy and AKG - which bark collars did you use? Do you have a link or the brand name maybe?
When my new addition Nala starts barking, she can wake up the neighborhood in a several miles range I think.... :(
Do those work like e-collars? Did yours stim or vibrate or is both possible? Could they create or intensify anxiety/fear?
Thanks!
Susanne
 

AGK

Scratch Kingz
Staff member
I'll get back to you when I'm not at work with what brand and model I use. Mine doesn't vibrate just shock. It gages the level of the bark and corrects accordingly. The louder they bark the more intense they get light up. Never had one become anxious or fearful from it they just learn to STFU. I got mine at Tractor Supply . I'll get you the model # in a few hours when I get home. ;)
 
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AGK

Scratch Kingz
Staff member
NoBark 6 Standard Bark Control Collar

It's worked on some of my most stubborn of barkers.







 
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AGK

Scratch Kingz
Staff member
A few have learned that they can still whine without correction but usually stop after a week or so. Some sooner some longer but eventually they all come around to seeing things my way. Lol

I only use them for about a month then I take the collar off and they just wear their normal collars. Can always put it back on if they revert back to the behavior. Many times it's not necessary, sometimes it is. Depends on the dog.
 
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steve07

Good Dog
Premium Member
I jus bought one of these collars for my blue. He goes crazy in the yard when people are walking by. He gets so excited he nips the wooden fence. He never does it when I'm out there though. So I'm goin to try it this week on the beep mode. I'm going to watch him while I'm in the house.