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Dog fighting/playing. I'm so confused. HELP!

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by Steeler's Mom, Mar 28, 2011.

  1. I'm totaly new to the pit world and will try to make this short and to the point. I have read alot of the stickies and such but they are very conflicting on the subject of dog fighting/playing.

    Short intro: I am now (2 weeks) the proud mom of Steeler, a pit mix rescue. He is estimated about a year old. He is the only male dog in the house and is nuetered. I also have 2 great danes and a cocker spaniel (all female and spayed).
    Here is how the dog playing/fighting has been going and how I have been handling it. Please let me know if this sounds ok or if due to the pit breed I need to handle it differently.
    Based on the fact that Steeler (pit) has lots of energy, is quick, agile and a sturdy lil guy and can handle rough play from the bigger danes this is usually how the sessions go:
    I will let them (danes and Steeler) get pretty rough as they all seem like they can take it. I only "step in" and break it up by either squirting them with a bit of water or clapping my hands and saying "ok, ok, time out for a sec" when either its starts sounding like its not Play anymore, I don't see an obvious "break" here and there by them to let me know its play, or if any of them sound like they got hurt(maybe bit a little hard or something) and the other dog isn't stopping.
    Steeler doesn't seem imtimidated by the danes like alot of smaller dogs so I don't think he's like agressive from fear or anything and he doesn't ever seem to go after them in an agressive way other than for play. I just get concerned as to the point I should let it go during their playtime to not encourage any unwanted but maybe inate "pit type" behavior from him. Thanks for any feedback yall may have.

    ---------- Post added at 01:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:23 AM ----------

    I see people have read this thread but no answers as to if yall (experienced pit owners) think I'm handling it ok as far as how this works for Steeler. :confused:
     
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  2. Alma

    Alma GRCH Dog

    I would say youre handling it fine. As long as you dont let the play get over excited and you can and do step in the end the play, its most likely fine. ;)
     
  3. camerina

    camerina Puppy

    dogs are just like kids. they play and fight and then they make up and start playing again. you shouldnt let it get that far though if you see them getting a little rough stop it.

    I have two 3 month old dogs ones a pit and the other is a bull terrier. I dont let them play rough at all because I have kids and I dont need them thinking its ok to play like that with or around the kids.
     
  4. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Practice calling Steeler out of "play mode" with a command, "That's enough" and when he turns and comes to you, give him a delicious treat. Have a long line on him the first few times so you can reel him into you when he hears those words (or whatever words you want to use). Then let him go back to play. Other times, call it good and put him somewhere to settle down once you have called him out of the play.

    Carla
     
  5. I don't worry about the influence on any kids mine are 19,20 & 23 but I was just worried about what level of "rough" play a pit should be allowed to engage in. My danes don't have the same inner drive that pits seem to so I figure playtime will need to be more determined by the best needs for Steeler's temperment now.
     
  6. Alma

    Alma GRCH Dog

    I have a video on here somewhere that I will try to find of my two pit bull mixes play fighting, maybe that will help you in determining the excitement level. ;)

    ---------- Post added at 03:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:59 PM ----------

    Ok, I cant find the video but here are some pics that show some pretty rough play. I cant seem quite viscous when its just play.

    Is the dominance too much? No more play time for my pups together? - Training Behavior
     
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  7. Tiffany3483

    Tiffany3483 Good Dog

    I think you are doing ok. Just continue supervising and never leave them alone together. If they start getting too rough or someone is bullying the other, stop the play and give them a timeout until they settle down.

    Also I find doing some group obedience together helps teach them to focus on you even with other dogs around and they want to play. Keep it short and positive!
     
  8. Great suggestions yall. Thank you so much. I am feeling more confident now.
     
  9. LSK

    LSK Puppy

    you own a Pit Bull, not a beagle. As long as its not trying to shred you, grabbing pants and shaking is ok
     
  10. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    WHAT?? First of all, she's talking about DOGS playing together, not playing with humans. And second of all, why would you think that a dog grabbing your pants is ok?? I hope you're joking.

    Anyway. Pit Bulls play HARD. My dogs sound like lions in my backyard sometimes.. my neighbors probably love me LOL. In the house, I do not let them get rough or too excited, just the rules here.
    Sako & Piper are my instigators, so most of the time I will just put Sako on a leash for 5min. to let them all chill out. Or, Piper goes onto her place and Wilson & Sako are allowed to continue playing. Basically, whoever seems to be too riled up gets a "time out", so to speak.
     
  11. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    Not always the case, if a real fight breaks out then there is very little chance that the APBT mix is ever going to forget it and make up. More then likely if a real fight breaks out they will never be able to be around each other again.

    Keep play time very short and always be there to supervise, also invest in a good break stick and keep it handy.

    This is bad advice the last thing you want to add to an already escalating situation is food.

    Maybe teaching them all sit/stay on command will help, that is what we do. When things get heated all I have to do is give a firm command and mine sit right where they are. You can work one on one with them teaching them this, and practice it when they are playing before things get heated.

    If things start to get to rough give the command if you have to call them down more then twice then play time should be over.

    No grabbing anything other what you give them to grab and shake such as a spring pole or a hide is NEVER okay, let one of mine grab my pants and shake, they will get a nice firm swat.
     
  12. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    I meant for this little exercise to take place when things are going well, when they are playing "properly", well before things are getting heated, not when things are escalating. It's meant to practice how TO get a dog out of a situation that looks like it may be escalating....teaching them to leave the situation at a command...Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

    Carla
     
  13. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    I think offering food in a group situation is never a good idea.
     
  14. MissCryss

    MissCryss Little Dog

    my 2 APBT rescues sound like they are fighting, but they just like to play rough. They like to play "who humps who" and they like to wrestle each others collars off. Don't worry, as long as you are supervising and you can break their concentration and redirect their attention to you then its alright.

    When my 2 are playing and I call for them to come to me, if they ignore me then playtime is over and they get seperated. They know that my word is final. If they want to play but I am calling, you better come running! lol
     

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