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Dog bites V.S. Cat Bites

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by LovePup, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. LovePup

    LovePup Good Dog

    Basically this thread is to find out where people stand when it comes to being bitten by a dog and being bitten by a cat. What makes it more important to put down an aggressive unpredictable dog and not a cat with the same behavior issues?

    In your Opinion. :D And lets keep it clean.
     
  2. catchrcall

    catchrcall Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    Who says I wouldn't? Physco is physco. Dog, cat, horse, cow, doesn't really matter. Only difference is with a cow you take her butt to the sale barn and sell her as a weigh-up so she's sure to straight to burger. Man injuring animals are not to be tolerated no matter what species.
     
  3. Beki

    Beki Good Dog Premium Member

    I agree 100 % with this!
     
  4. TannerG

    TannerG Boss Member

    agree with the above
     
  5. Tiffany3483

    Tiffany3483 Good Dog

    Cats go quicker than dogs for me. I have little to no tolerance for cats in the first place. My roommate had one. A gorgeous Maine Coon. She was up on the counter and I went to make her get down and she grabbed by face with her claws, ripping my lip open and bit my wrist. She went to the pound the next day and was put down.
     
  6. Poisoned

    Poisoned GRCH Dog

    When it comes to cats, a LOT of people don't understand them and their behavior. And how to correct or interpret it.

    That in mind, if it wasn't something I could fix and I just had a nutty cat, yeah, he'd have to go. The cat I have right now (that I really can't keep, I didn't want her, she showed up) is GREAT. I can cuddle her like a baby, check her over and clean her wounds without worry about a bite. She'll swat a dog real fast though. Even my brother/roommate, who is rough with her, hasn't gotten himself even a swat yet. She's never hissed at me. She follows me like a dog - if I take Jaeger walking, she's behind us and goes limp when she's in trouble or being thrown back outside, and even when I was thoroughly checking her over and treating burns, and palpating her abdomen to see if she was just fat. Good little cat. But honestly if she bit me for whatever reason, I wouldn't treat it like I would my dog, because she's not a dog.

    But I've had cats in the past who were little assholes. One named Uhoh in particular, I was the only person who could really handle him, and he still got shitty with me many times. But I didn't take it personally. Cats are kind of, well, dicks most of the time. BUT I cannot stand litter boxes, so I won't have indoor cats anyway. And I won't have outdoor cats because of the dangers. So I don't have to worry about it really.
     
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  7. I used to be a vet tech and because of that experience, I'm scared of cats. I have been bitten and scratched by cats many times but have only gotten a couple dog bites in my entire life. I have a cat and I'm scared to give him a nail trim- I actually take him to the vet to do it. He's an asshole. I woudn't consider him aggressive, but if someone touches his belly, they will get swatted (I always warn people not to pet the belly, he will actually roll onto his back and acts like he wants it). That is about as much as I will tolerate from a cat, I will not live with an animal (of any species) if I have to worry about it scratching or biting someone for no reason, it would have a very long nap......
     
  8. CallSignOWL

    CallSignOWL Good Dog

  9. Krista

    Krista Krypto Super Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    I think it depends what's going on with the cat. I have cats and I trust them 100% not to bite me. All 3 of them are good natured and I handle them a lot and they wouldn't lay a tooth on me. I know that for sure.

    I worked with a few cats at the shelter that bit me. But it didn't warrant putting them down, actually.

    One had ear mites and I had helped my boss treat for them and I accidentally dropped him and he bit me when I went to pick him up because he was declawed. That was my fault and one female bit me.

    I do think if I had an out of control cat that was aggressive, I would put the cat down. Those cats weren't aggressive in my eyes, just spooked and they only bit me once they didn't full out attack me. BTW - I think Jaxon is really awesome at what he does. Not many people can help like he does with cats with behavior issues. I think he's really good with them.
     
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  10. MsAcer

    MsAcer Good Dog

    A dog bite is bad enough, but I've never had a "normal" dog bite go bad.
    You get a bite from a cat, you can be in BIG trouble medically. Like, the bite goes septic and your in the hospital on intravenous antibiotics for 3 days(yep that was me).
    Also a wack job cat seems more evil...
     
  11. monkeys23

    monkeys23 GRCH Dog

    I had an unstable cat once. She is no longer here. ;)

    I can tell you my parent's sure as shit would have shot my first cat if she'd ripped me apart for loving the crap out of her.

    I have a screwball dog. If I couldn't trust her around people/kids she wouldn't be here. She is more trustworthy than a lot of supposedly "well bred" dogs I've met. Even with being the most trusthworthy dog I've ever met despite her fears, I've still had a ton of worry about her quality of life. And luckily even with plateaus it keeps steadily increasing the longer she's with me, so its all good. Number one priority is her safety and quality of life, not my wants and desires.
    Also she's scared of kids that get in her face because she was BITTEN and harrased by small children in a previous home. Know what she does if a child surpises or scares her? She hides behind me and I protect her.
    She also gets very over the top in drive with me playing fetch and tug... she's making good progress on her targeting and impulse control skills. But to the untrained eye she probably looks pretty scary when we play given that she's a giant hairy German Shepherd dog mix with a big GSD bark and balls to the wall drive.... and yet she knows to modulate her play to gently fetch with my neices and groom my 7lb cat. Huh imagine that. Thats a good dog right there.

    Also I'm really fucking sick of people using the bullshit term "protective" to make excuses for nervebag dogs that you can't trust. That is HORSESHIT. That is NOT a valid excuse for unstable and unpredictable behavior from ANY BREED!!! Especially working dogs like GSD's. A good GSD is NEVER going to fire off for no fucking reason and they are about the most trustworthy dog you'll ever have. Also they are a HERDING breed.... not a "protection" breed. Don't talk shit about working dogs you don't have a fucking clue about. And I hope those who say that crap never own one. Because you don't deserve their awesomeness.
     
  12. catchrcall

    catchrcall Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    The thing with cats is that they have so many warning systems. That tail flicking hair on end growl hiss is definately nature's way of saying don't touch. Most of the time people deserve what they get. We had some pretty anti social barn cats growing up. You grab most of those bad boys you're leaving some skin with them, and it's your own fault for grabbing a half wild cat. The one sitting on the sink that split somebodys lip and then bit for no reason... yeah kitty gotta go.
     
  13. CallSignOWL

    CallSignOWL Good Dog

    I agree with this. I've been around cats all my life, even feral barnyard cats. 9 times out of 10 the cat will give you a warning that you are pissing it off. If you ignore those warnings its your own damn fault. I suppose Ive been lucky enough to have never come across a batshit crazy cat. All I have met have been stable (yes, even the barn cats)
     
  14. monkeys23

    monkeys23 GRCH Dog

    Exactly!
     
  15. MMSmith

    MMSmith Good Dog

    Cats can be unstable, just like a dog. I wouldn't put up with anything from a cat that wasn't normal cat behavior. Just like the others have said, some cats are more mean than others, and some cats are super affectionate and trustworthy. Either way, I would have to have that trust and predictability in any pet. If I couldn't trust my cat not to attack someone it would have to go.

    Cat and dog bites can be bad. Depends on the severity. However, even a small cat bite can fuck you up, infection-wise. I'm sure the vet techs can tell some horror stories. Dogs can do a lot of damage because they're strong. My dad arrested a guy years ago that was caught by a K9 officer. My dad and a few other cops chase a couple of guys into an overnight parking area for 18 wheelers. They try and hide. When the K9 arrives and the human partner announces he's gonna release the dog, one guy surrenders. The other is hiding under an 18 wheeler and won't come out. The dog drags his ass out from under that truck by his forearm and drags him all the way across the parking area. Of course this idiot is fighting the dog and gets his arm fucking torn up in the process. My dad showed me the pictures and it was NASTY! Broke some bones and took a long time to heal.
     
  16. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog

    Totally agree!!!!

    I've never had a cat. My girlfriend has always had cats and her cats have been the coolest...they act kinda like dogs (which is probably why I think they're cool).

    But overall cats kind of remind me of mini Freddy Kruegers...I have a healthy respect for those claws.
     
  17. Jamielvsaustin

    Jamielvsaustin Good Dog

    I've been bitten by one of my dogs and one of my cats-neither (in my eyes) deserve the needle. Just because there's a bite or harm to human doesn't mean it's the animals fault. It depends on the situation.

    I broke up a dog fight between my resident female dog-Bailey and our (at the time) female foster-Resi. They were trying to kill each other, I was home alone and I was having a hell of a time breaking them up. I tried putting one of them in the closet but as I went to close the (accordion) door it snapped right off the hinges. At one point I was holding both dogs up off of the ground by the scruff of their necks trying to keep them away from each other while they struggled to get free. Res was just under 50lbs, Bailey under 60lbs and I'm only 5'2. It might have lasted a full 10 minutes (probably even more like 6-7) but I was whooped and I could feel myself slowing down and losing strength. I moved them towards the master bathroom, got Bailey in there, kicked Resi back with one leg, and tried to push Bailey back with one hand (while the other was on the door knob trying to close it). As I pushed my wide open hand towards Bailey's face to push her back she bite the webbed part of my hand, the top and one of my fingers. As soon as she broke skin she let go and backed away-like she knew that's not what she wanted/supposed to happen. She immediately calmed down in the bathroom, Resi kept trying to get to the bathroom door-I had put her in the kennel. It was then that I saw the blood on my hand-I was so amped I didn't feel it. And even then I didn't know it was mine, I pulled Res back out and checked her over-nothing (punctures but nothing leaking). When I went back to check in Bailey I used the bitten hand to reach for the door and realize I was bleeding. I know that the ideal Pit Bull doesn't redirect during a fight, but I didn't feel like it was even that. And shes a rescue, so she could be mixed with something that IS known for redirecting. I thought I might feel afraid of her afterward-but I didn't and I'm not afraid that she'd do it again. I mean, I suppose if during another fight I put my hand in her mouth again she might bite me but I really felt it was my fault not hers.

    With the cat-we hand some POS part feral kids in our house because their Dad was helping my husband put in a wood floor. It was like a whirlwind of mini devils and "mom should've swallowed your asses" running around my house. Gus is a "frady" cat as it is-super easily spooked. The room that the floor was being put in was his hide away. He was hiding behind the TV when the kids started chasing him. They chased him into that room (and it was completely empty) and were screaming as they did so (imagine the echo). I chased them and was screaming at them to stop. Finally I got in there and Gussy was in the window sill running around-up the sides of the window (like there was no gravity) trying with all his might to get the eff out of that window. I finally grabbed him and was going to put him in another room when he chomped down a couple times in rapid succession. I'm pretty sure I felt him hit the bone!

    That bite SUCKED. I had to go to a walk in clinic, where they cleaned it ( hurt like a SOB) gave me some shot and put me on some heavy duty antibiotics. My finger was three times the normal size. It felt like it was on fire, I couldn't even feel the bite marks it hurt because the skin was stretched so bad. My finger was purple and shiny! Oh man it hurt. Epsom salt probably saved my sanity then. It was right before my wedding too, and in the pictures of us holding hands around the bouquet the scar/redness really stands out to me.

    So in both of those situations I don't blame the animals and (obviously) don't feel they deserved being put down. I also don't feel that either of the animals are unstable-just pushed past their limit.

    Recently a friend of ours contacted us because her Boxer "attacked" the baby. We were at their house the day after and the baby had no marks on her. But this dog has a history of aggression-according to my BIL. Definitely not your typical Boxer mentality-she came from a "Breeder" (and they bred her). The wife said she was putting up a baby gate with both the dog and the baby behind her. Heard the "attack" and turned around, the dog was on top of the baby. She pulled the dog off, went all "a car is on top of my baby" mom crazy and beat the dog. They put her in the kennel at the vets office immediately and want to find a home for the dog. While I find it hard to believe the dog was on top of the baby attacking her I do think if this dog is as unstable as my BIL says-she should be put down. The owners don't seem responsible enough to keep her-it's clear they have no interest in it what-so-ever anyway because this situation. So what are they going to do? They want to find a home for her without other dogs or kids....because apparently that's so easy. And who wants a dog that "attacked" a baby. So either they're giving it to someone whom they've lied to, or someone who's kinda crazy for wanting a dog with that history.
     
  18. Savage Destiny

    Savage Destiny Big Dog

    I'm more tolerant of cats, mostly because they tend to scare easier and go into self-defense mode. They haven't been specifically bred not to bite when hurt or scared like dogs have been. Really, in a lot of ways, cats are less domesticated than dogs, so I'm more forgiving.

    I own an aggressive cat. I got her outside a grocery store when she was 3 weeks old. She's 14 now, and is my precious little baby. Monstee adores me, but everyone else is fair game in her eyes. As she has aged, she has mellowed, but she used to stalk and attack guests at our house. Hands, feet, faces, whatever she could get at she did. People didn't touch her without losing blood. She still sits in our windows and growls at people walking down the street- part of the reason she's not allowed outdoors is that she would attack passersby. If she goes to the vet, I have to hold her for every procedure, or she'll maul the vet and techs. However, I can do anything I want to her, and she won't do a thing. If she gets outside and gets dirty, I can bathe her and hold her on her back under the faucet to rinse her belly. At the vet, one hand holds her front paws and the other goes in front of her mouth, because she won't risk biting or scratching in case she gets me. To me, that's the difference- she won't go after me, just everyone else. That's okay in my book. In her old age she leaves people alone anyway, unless they mess with her. She will still latch on to the dogs if they vicinitate her (that's our little word for getting in her space). Then I have to pry her teeth off them, because she won't let go. :lol:

    My other three cats are pretty trustworthy. My two boys in particular are squishy babies I can pick up and squeeze whenever I want.
     
  19. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    Dogs are mans best friends. We specifically bred them to work beside us and later on to be companion animals. Cats, on the other hand, aren't our best friends. They are more casual acquaintances. I give cats a little more leeway, but I would still put a cat down for being nuts. Kitty is sick or injured and takes a few layers of skin, I get it. Kitty is scared and digs ten claws into me, I get it. Kitty is perfectly fine and takes a chunk out of me I'd wring its freakin neck.

    Rita's constant battles with ear infections and related issues means I have to poke, prod and clean her psinful spots. Her response when she sees me coming with the dog medicine tote is to either crate herself or try to hide behind the nearest human. I get hold of her and treat her she submits. She isn't happy about it, but she has never so much as growled and I have seen her take an affectionate mauling from young kids before I could grab them and be fine with it while hurting. I fully expect her to be nonviolent at all times partly because of her breed and partly because she is such a gentle and loving dog.

    Now my cat Marty-Kitty, who just had a HUGE abscess and had to be compressed and flushed daily as well as medicated with antibiotics, had to be handled with gloves because he was serious about "protecting" himself from the evil people who were hurting him to make him better. Twice a day that kitty fought like a banshee even though he is very affectionate normally. By the end of his two weeks of treatment we all had scratches and teeth marks on our hands and forearms. But I let it slide because he was a hurt cat who was doing what a lot of sick animals do.
     
  20. kayla baxter

    kayla baxter Big Dog

    I was talking about this with a coworker on Saturday. She once put a cat down for being nuts. They had him since a kitten and he was always a little weird and would startle over nothing. They has his hearing checked three times because they thought he was deaf. He wasn't. One day her husband walked toward the cat to pick him up for grooming which was a weekly occurrence. Cat watched him walk across the room, crouch down and reach out a hand toward him and showed no signs of being scared or uncomfortable. As soon as he touched the cat, it bit him right through the thumb nail. It caused massive infection and he almost lost the arm. Cat went bye bye after that.
     

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