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Dog Attacks

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by pitbullmomma28, Jun 11, 2011.

  1. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    I did raise the kids to know how to interact with dogs and be respectful of people and their property. DJ, mu oldest, is a huge animal lover and can't wait until she gets her own place and can have her own dog. She's also really good with little kids. Just to give you an idea of the "vibe" she has. DJ was about 10 she asked to go visit her friend down the street while I was making dinner. She and the two girls she wanted to visit were very close and she was at their house daily for months. They had a huge mutt w a lot of fur named Bear. I'd been there many times and Bear seemed a sweet and stable dog. He was fully mature so I wasn't worrying that could change. Well behaved, raised with his kids, knew me and my kids very well.

    20 minutes after she left the parents escorted DJ home with a dog bite on her forearm. We went to the ER and the doctor had to cut some skin off to get the wound tidy enough to stitch. 12 Stitches later we went home. Now, at 17, the scar has shurnk to about 3 inches and is sort of roundish.

    The dog owners waited in the waiting room because they were worried. When we talked I specifically asked them if DJ did ANYthing to provoke the dog. The mother said DJ and her daughter were in the yard, sitting at a picnic table, talking. The mom opened the back door to let the dog out and she said he literally charged DJ right away and if DJ hadn't been quick to turn, recognize the threat and put up her arm Bear would have gotten her face. The mother said she and her husband decided to euthanize Bear in the morning because they didn't trust him anymore. They never thought he would hurt anyone and they were scared for their own kids.

    I didn't sue or anything, even though the ER bill was quite high and we had no medical insurance. The family didn't have any real money beyond bill paying just like the rest of us in that neighborhood and it was bad enough the parents and kids were grieving their dog.

    That's one of those times I think its no ones fault. Not DJ, not the parents, not the dog. I suspect something was wrong with him and he wasn't in his right mind. The mom never thought he would hurt a child. Hell, he lived with a bunny that roamed the house and was gentle even with him. DJ didn't do anything wrong either. Believe me, I grilled the mom because if it was even remotely DJ's fault I would have kicked her ass. Sometimes, shit happens.

    Unfortunately, most bites are the fault of inexperienced owners who have no clue or those that just don't care and don't understand how to raise, train, control or contain a dog. To make things worse, there are a lot of "fur mommies" out there who think of dogs as furry humans with angelic souls and they fail to understand themselves or teach their kids that dogs are animals and can cause serious harm.
  2. Boogieman

    Boogieman Good Dog Premium Member

    Huh it's awfully funny you telling people to grow up and face reality, yet in the thread about APBT's having the genetics for dog aggression, you want to close your simple little mind and deny the fact they are and you can love or train it out of them.

    Why not take a little of your own advice there. You're just the type of owner the breed doesn't need unless you decide to open your mind to the facts instead of what you WANT to believe.

    The Asshole
  3. pitbullmomma28

    pitbullmomma28 Little Dog

    I have never in my life denied that APBT's are dog aggressive. I know this well. They were fighting dogs, just like I wouldn't expect an Akita to not be aggressive towards other dogs, I would not expect an APBT not to be aggressive towards other dogs. I have an APBT, and I know they can be aggressive towards other dogs. So I'd like to know were I said they WEREN'T dog aggressive, because I know this. :-|
  4. Gatorpit

    Gatorpit Good Dog

    There are two Pitbullmommas on this forum. Pitbullmomma24 and pitbullmomma28. Maybe Boogie confused you with the other.
  5. pitbullmomma28

    pitbullmomma28 Little Dog

    Ok, that would make sense because I was like wait whaaa? haha :)
  6. simms

    simms Good Dog

    Hey Asshole! LOL
  7. pitbullmomma28

    pitbullmomma28 Little Dog

    My reaction: :lolbangtable:
  8. omgrobyn

    omgrobyn GRCH Dog

    Because times have changed I think.

    It seems like most of us grew up in the "era" when if we did something stupid, like going into a fenced in yard with a dog in it for example, where if we got bit, yes it was our fault.

    If one of our dogs were to bite some dumb ass kid, or kill it, for trespassing these days, to avoid the lynch mob, lawsuits etc, we'd be left with very few options. Kill the dog, or what I suggested before, hide the evidence and go on with our lives. Unfortunately we and our dogs have to suffer because of someone else's stupidity/lack of respect for other people's property.
  9. Tiffany3483

    Tiffany3483 Good Dog

    Me too. First thing I got ask, "What did you you do to the dog?". I got my butt tore up good one time. I bit the dog first, dozens of times before he finally finally bit back and got me in the face. I see the scar everyday in the mirror! I didn't mess with the dog after he bit me and that fact saved my life. We lived out in the boonies. I was going outside and Dot Dog (mini Dachshund) was barking at me. So since I hadn't done nothing to him, I was going to go tattle on him for being mean to me! My Mother came to see what was wrong and their was about a 3" step down where I was going and right up under the step was a HUGE rattlesnake all coiled up. Dot dog was keeping me away from the snake until my Dad got their and shot it. Learned to respect dogs from my interaction with that little dog!
  10. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog

    :thinking:two equally reasonable options...
  11. KellyBear

    KellyBear Puppy

    Today I was at a neighbors house where they have a female lab pit bull mix. A friend that was with me wanted to see his new chickens. We went outside and had to pass the dog, who was tied to the chain, where she is 18 hrs out of the day. The owner shortened the chain so we could get past the dog because she is an excited dog and likes to jump. I picked up my friends 2 yr old ,while she carried her 6 mos old around the dog. We looked at the chickens then went to leave. I asked the owner if I could pet the dog and he said yes, I reached down and stroked her on the head. She got excited and jumped up on me. With out any warning she lunged at the 2 yr olds face... At the time I thought she was trying to lick so I pulled away. The dog then lunged at me and bit my arm. I jerked away as she shook my jacket sleeve.
    She left a three inch puncture/scratch on my arm. It didnt bleed nor required any medical attention and the only harm to the baby was a small tooth mark on her nose.
    My issue is we are the 3/4 people the dog has bitten and the owners have 2 children that have friends over a lot. They did not tell me the dog has bitten before, just a month ago they were in court for it. It is there 10yr old daughters dog and i feel bad saying it needs to be put to sleep, but what if i had not pulled away? I feel the dog would have torn the child's face off. what if one of the other neighbor kids go over there and get bit?

    What should I do??:confused::confused::confused:
  12. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    The dog has bitten multiple people. It went for a kid and there are kids on the property. I think what you should do is report the bite and let the AC officer know the dog has bitten before. Hopefully, they will require it be euthanized since the owners are irresponsible.
  13. simms

    simms Good Dog

    Well you are the dumbass here! You knew that the owner had shortend the length of the chain so you could safely get by. Then you ask to pet it with a kid in your arms. Stupid is as stupid fucking does! That is straight up your fault!

    Ppl are going to have less than steller tempermented animals. However when some one is aware of it and they take the steps to manage it. You shouldn't try and push the envelope and then cry foul!

  14. omgrobyn

    omgrobyn GRCH Dog

    I could see you doing some crazy shit for the lovely Veronica Lynn...:lol:
  15. King Rat

    King Rat Little Dog

    No, it’s the owners fault, The owner was there, they were asked if they could pet the dog and confirmed it was OK, and allowed someone to go up and pet the do. If he know his dog was aggressive then he should have taken steps to stop someone going up to pet it.

    What annoys me about some dog owners is that they expect everybody else to be able to read their dog’s body language and react accordingly. I’m sorry but as a dog owner its your responsibility to take reasonable steps to keep people safe. Not everybody in the world is a dog expert or has grown up around dogs and understands dogs.

    Yes of course if some one is doing something as stupid as throwing stones at your dog or if they climb over a 6 foot fence, or open a gate with a sign which says “beware of the dog” then they are at fault.

    But if some one simply pets your dog, and it attacks then you are at fault and should have either stopped them doing so, had your dog somewhere where its not going to come in contact with people, or had it muzzled.
  16. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog


  17. omgrobyn

    omgrobyn GRCH Dog

  18. simms

    simms Good Dog

    Some ppl lack the good sense to know better. She knew that dog had the lenth of its tether shortened so they could safely get by. Yes the owner should have said No dont touch that dog. but some ppl feel the need to push the envelope. I dont have to touch every animal that I come in contact with. An If I am on someone else property an I happen to pet someone elses confined animal and it nibbles on me. It's my fault as I have increased the risk of being bit on my own. That's wether I asked to pet the animal or not. All dogs can bite!

    Is that animal that is described dangerous? yes. But that person put herself in harms way at the same time endangering that child.

    Legaly the home owner is responsible. But ppl need to change the way they think about this stuff. Indirectly are they the cause of why they were bitten?
  19. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog

    I actually agree with both of you.

    I think everyone shares the blame equally.

    People need to start remembering that dogs are animals, not cute little plush play toys that live to meet our needs and provide us with amusement .
  20. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    I side with King Rat here. But I do not give the poster a free pass. The way I see it, people with unstable dogs should euth them. And I have been there with personal dogs, so I do know what I am talking about. If someone decides to keep a HA animal alive then they are responsible for keeping it from being anywhere near humans. However, if you know a dog has bitten in the past you are completely stupid for asking to pet it and bringing a kid with you while you do. I would say it was all the posters fault, but she ASKED THE OWNER AND HE SAID IT WAS OK. That's the clincher of blame for me. The owner should have said NO and steered guests away from the dog. Its not at all unreasonable to pet a dog the owner of said dog clears you to pet.

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