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Discussion: what to call your mutt

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Kamdon, Jun 19, 2012.

  1. catchrcall

    catchrcall Good Dog Staff Member

    I have no idea what my blood tracker is, so that's what I tell people. He came straight out of a local dog pound.
     
  2. Kamdon

    Kamdon GRCH Dog

    I get asked every time I go out.

    "Is that a pit"?

    Well they get the same answer every time
     
  3. Team Peanut

    Team Peanut GRCH Dog

    wow Kamdon that sucks! i can definately see that getting old.

    The most common issue I get is people always say what a cute puppy when is he going to be full grown. no one ever beleives me he isn't a puppy.
     
  4. SemasMom

    SemasMom Big Dog

    I'm with Team Peanut. In the year I have had her, I have had one person ask me if Sema is a boxer, which actually made me laugh since I think she looks nothing like a boxer. But that's it. One person. No one asks me what kind of dog she is.

    Now, I do get people asking me about her red nose a lot. But that's a different story.
     
  5. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    I get asked a.l.l. t.h.e. t.i.m.e. LOL
    My little 40 pound APBT doesn't look like those "pit bulls" around here
    On the other hand, I get asked almost as often if I want to breed him as I do anything else SMH
     
  6. ConMan

    ConMan <b><font color="green">Premium Member aka king_leo

    i have called leon everything under the sun haha. i often make up breed names that absolutely don't exist when someone asks "what kind of dog is that, i'm looking for a stud"but if someone generally ask i always say "Pit Bull mix" usually they think American Bully's are the real deal APBT's so they are like "yeah he doesn't really look like a Pit Bull he's too lean"sometimes I explain the difference, sometimes I do not, just depends on how interested the people actually seem in learning.
     
  7. Libby

    Libby GRCH Dog

    Mexico--rezmutt, mutt, mix breed. Lab mix.

    Marsha-mutt, el chupacabre, chihuahua/shar pei.

    Kitty--mix, pit bull mix, mutt.

    Conway--mutt, mix, boxer-mutt.

    Umah--German shepherd.
     
  8. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

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    All the time.
    A lot of people in my area have never heard of an American Bulldog and they think Ike is some kinda Boxer mix.

    With the GP calling humongous hippo dogs "pit bulls" a lot of people ask what Rita and Renee are. Hell, we have a new low cost vet clinic funded by a group of rescues open nearby and I called them just yesterday to make a spay appointment for Renee. The vet tech I spoke with insisted that at a year old she must weigh at least 30lbs more than I told them because "pit bulls aren't that small".

    I've even had people question Owen's ancestry because a healthy weight Basset from hunting lines broke their lil brains. They're just too used to seeing fat and wrinkly show bred Bassets.

    Now, you all know my city is discussing BSL because some 90lb dog ate a doxie and was identified as a Pit Bull to AC and the media. Is that dog s Pit Bull? Probably not. Either it's a mix or it's really fat. We all know healthy purebred APBT (the only real Pit Bull) don't come in that size. But that don't much matter when the city starts talking BSL. I may be sensitive right now, but I do agree that people should be educated about dog breeds if thery are going to own one and be careful not to call it something unless they know for sure what it is. And to call it a mix if thats what it is. Perhaps if the 90lb dog owner had said "mixed breed" or "Pit Bull mix" people wouldn't be asking for restrictions/bans.
     
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  9. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

    Regularly. Basically any time in the mix of the GP, not so much at dog events. But basically every therapy visit is comprised of 'OMG what is she! My uncle/brother has a pit bull and he's so much bigger. OMG she looks like my Angel! OMG she's so small!'.... She's a pit bull in the eyes of every girl we visit, I don't even say anything. I don't argue with teenage girls, but I do try to educate them about the breed. A few of them were like 'wow I never thought of containing my dog', so hey, it's not all bad. But I always preface everything with "well she was rescued at 6 weeks old so we don't really know..." at which point they go "omg she totally looks like [enter pit bull they know]". Baltimore is a breeding ground for 'pit bulls', obviously since that's where Lily came from, so I think it's actually something nice that gets them to connect to me and Lily in a way they don't connect with other dogs.

    But yea, it's a common question for us.
     
  10. phillysmom

    phillysmom Good Dog

    This has really gotten complicated, in my brain anyway. Many good points of views on here. Mostly I call mine pit bull mixes though I have used am staff mix and bully mix depending on which dog I'm talking about.

    Even though my dogs have never seen a ring or been matched, I have no problems using the term pit bull. As I have stated in another thread, there are people who do not want the term "bulldog" used for just any dog. This is usually reserved for a certain kind of dog, in their eyes. I didn't really want to elaborate in the other thread but I will explain. I have a friend who's father used to match dogs. His father was caught (actually flying his fighting dogs into another state to a match). He did this while it was illegal and he served his time in jail for it. Now my friend uses the term "bulldogs", that is what his father called his match dogs.

    Samthepitbull, you do make some good points. When people come on this forum asking for help because their dog starts attacking other dogs they are usually berated for not doing more research on the breed, as this is a common trait. These are usually unpapered dogs, so which breed should they be researching traits for? Some acknowledgement is needed as to what kind of mix they might be. Otherwise how else are they to know its a normal trait in the breed and shouldn't really be frowned upon, can't be trained out and only managed?

    Just my two cents.
     
  11. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    If people have a problem with "mutt" or "mix" ... how about "pit bull type" then ??

    The first dog I ever saw that looked like "pit bulls" was WAY back in 1959 as a kid, when my dad built a home in the country and our nearest neighbor had a dog. I asked Stanley, Tommy and their dad Mr Swindle, what kind of dog Bull was ... they said Bull was a bulldog. Bull was a wonderful family dog that shared time between the neighbors and our house. But Bull sure didn't like other dogs much ... AT ALL ... HA !!!

    Now, I understand what bulldog means in some circles even though I don't stand in those circles. The general public doesn't know and perhaps doesn't need to know what's in those circles either, because it's no longer legal or regarded with respect by media, the general public and LOTS of dog owners ... including "pit bull" and "pit bull type" dog owners. To many in the general public ... pit bull ... is a fighting dog. Bulldog ... generally not so much.

    Perception is everything they say and you tell most people that your dog is a bulldog and I guarantee you they will view your dog in a different, often more positive, light than if you said the dog is a pit bull ... and guess what ... you aren't lying. They ARE bull and (perhaps arguably) terrier mixes
     
  12. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    So, what about the Pit Bull does NOT get complicated?!
    It's a big part of the Pit Bull "problem", and what attracts all segments of society from the lowest of the low gangbangers to the feel-good "victims" of "rescue" -- all of which need something to project their feelings on. Being complicated makes it all legitimate to them and makes them feel sophisticated in having and dealing with such an animal.

    It's a big reason I don't think that the "problem" is going to go away.
    Even "rescue" has turned into a quagmire for these dogs! There is no way for the breed to win.
    EVERYONE wants a piece of the Pit Bull pie.

    Carla
     
  13. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    don't like pit bull, mix, mutt, type, bulldog etc etc ... call 'em hounds :lol: ... no offense to your huntin' dawgs catchrcall
     
  14. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    oh ... and yes phillysmom ... I know in some circles, prospects (among others) are referred to as hounds
     
  15. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    here"s some which are not demeaning . crossbreed, heinze 57, mongrel.
    i for one am not too keen on "mutt" usually b/c the context it is used.
     
  16. SamThePitbull

    SamThePitbull Good Dog

    Dang this is complicated, isn't it? Since theres such a weird line between this topic and the topic of people grouping Am Bully/Am Staff/SBT into the "Pit Bull type" category.
     
  17. BlueBaloo

    BlueBaloo Big Dog

    The conversation usually goes like this:

    "What kind of dog is that?/Is that a pit?"

    Me: "Who knows. I got him from the pound"

    "He looks like a pit bull"

    "Yeah I guess he does"

    Walk away. Simple as that. I understand that Baloo fits the general public's view of a pitbull with the head and being blue. But he's more lean. Not as lean as APBT, but more lean than a hippo. So I've gotten people that continue the conversation with

    "He must be mixed with [greyhound,boxer,lab, whatever] he's so small"

    And I laugh and say "maybe so" and keep walking.

    Who cares what people think he is. If BSL comes knocking, he's a pitbull. If he escapes, he's a pit bull. If he mauls someones cat, he's a pit bull.

    So I never tell people he's a pit bull or even a pit bull mix. If someone asks without seeing him, I say he kinda looks like a bulldog and boxer (even though I'm pretty sure he doesn't have an ounce of boxer in him. It seems to make people feel better) People make their own assumptions either way
     
  18. catchrcall

    catchrcall Good Dog Staff Member

    None taken Joe..... I've called 'em worse!:grin:

    I dunno... I guess I like "bulldog" best for what I've got and what they do, even though it's way off base for Beetle. It's short, it's sweet and it's got a clear meaning. It keeps things simple. I've never had a bay blow up and heard somebody yell "Get the American Pit Bull Terriers! Quick!" :D "Bulldog" or "Pit" is just quick and easy when they're working and it transposes to every day life.

    I think the way the word "mix" is just thrown toward any unpapered dog and expected to stick by most on this forum is what gets me. There's just something about it that gets under my skin. Probably because I see so many obviously unpapered dogs that are pure bred that it just boggles my mind that someone would basicly refuse to accept the possibility because some registry doesn't back it up. Drives me nuts. Is it unreasonable for me to care? Yes. A bit childish? Yes. Likely to change? Unfortunately, no.
     
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  19. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    Maybe we should throw our hands in the air and say " They're all wolves!" the way my husband does when I get going on breeds, lol.

    I do see the point being made about people who get a random rescue/pound dog and then come here wondering why its DA only to be told its a Pit Bull breed trait because the dog looks Pit Bull or some kind of Pit Bull mix. But the thing is, we also get a lot of people who claim to know and love the breed, know they own one, and STILL come here wanting to know why it's not getting on well with other dogs.

    A lot of breeds (and their mixes) as well as individuals of any breed can be DA. So, really, people who get a random pound/rescue dog are just in a "buyer beware" position. Since they don't know what they have or how its formative time was handled they should be on the lookout for some...quirks.
     
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  20. Celestial88

    Celestial88 Good Dog

    I prefer to choose a type that the dog displays, like Terrier, Hound, Sighthound, Bulldog, Shepherd, Retriever, Collie, Cattle dog, Spitz, Mastiff, Pit Bull (Which I'm iffy with using but do), Livestock Guardian, shall I keep going? And I add "mix" to the end.

    I refer to Dakota as a German Shepherd/Labrador Retriever mix, because well, he is. His parents are of known lineage, he came from a BYB.

    Alice I call a "Pit Bull mix" I have called her a APBT before, but, it was because someone was annoying me with the whole "She must be mixed because the pure ones are vicious" and I feel like slapping them in the face in a nonliteral manner. :rolleyes:

    Now, with using "Pit Bull mix" I prefer to use that with dogs of obvious bull/terrier heritage. When looking at Alice I don't see any other breeds, but I don't know, so I can't say.

    And with some dogs, if there's a breed that stands out I may call it by that breed and add mix to the end.
     

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