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Discussion: what to call your mutt

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Kamdon, Jun 19, 2012.

  1. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    Rowdy, the dog from unknown origin and pedigree I lost to cancer last year ... I identified as bulldog, bull & terrier mix, or bulldawg

    I said that's what Rowdy was when ask, NOT because those words are slang for "pit bull", the American Pit Bull Terrier ... or anything else. I said that's what he was, because long before there were registries and their assign breed names ... that is what the dogs were referred to as.

    Rowdy may never have had a registered and purebred dog in his pedigree, so bulldog or bull & terrier mix seemed to me to be the most accurate description of what Rowdy was. Sadly in todays society with misinformation and misidentification by media, general public and even those who know better, "pit bull" has basically come to mean ... mutt
     
  2. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    Was Rowdy a pit bull? ... no ma'am ... Rowdy was not rolled or matched and never saw a box or pit
    Was Rowdy an American Pit Bull Terrier? ... no ma'am ... his origin and pedigree was unknown. In the right light I could see APBT, AST and even a smidgen of SBT in Rowdy
    Was Rowdy a bulldog / bull & terrier mix ... yes ma'am ... 110% ... all day long

    Rowdy and Sugar

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  3. catchrcall

    catchrcall Good Dog Staff Member

    I like this.
     
  4. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    I think this is what many Pit Bull advocates have wanted all along -- all the better to not pin blame on Pit Bulls, because you couldn't identify what a "pit bull" was (even though they all knew what a "Pit Bull" is) and to make other dogs as likely as a Pit Bull to be identified as "the problem".

    In other words, making "pit bull" a mutt and hard to identify was never, from what I can remember, pushed against very much. It worked in "our" favor to have our dogs hard to identify and to have a lot of breeds and mixes that could be "Pit Bulls".

    Carla
     
  5. catchrcall

    catchrcall Good Dog Staff Member

    I'll try and do better with this. AKC, I believe, recognizes Walker hounds. Lets say I've got a yard full of Walkers, none with papers. They would not be recognized as Walkers by the AKC because their ancestors were not registered with the AKC. That doesn't make the dogs any less Walker at all. It just means that an organization does not accept them as Walkers. What I mean is that a kennel club is just a club. It can't bring lightning down and smite me and my dogs, or penalize me for having unregistered stock, or have a say in anything that matters to anyone that is not involved in the club. Not being identified by a club does not change genetics, it just has some genetics written down on the club's books.

    That being said, I don't care a whole bunch what anybody thinks of my dogs. At least most of the time. There are a few that have taken the time to mentor me in the dog world who's opinions matter a great deal. I just dislike it when some refuse to recognize that not every unregistered dog out there is a "mix". It just seems like such bogus snob logic.
     
  6. GoingPostal

    GoingPostal Good Dog

    I call them pit bulls, if someone asks if they are purebred I say probably not. I think Ripley probably has some American Bulldog in her but again, who knows. Perhaps we should start telling people they are Mexican Squirrel Dogs, I'm positive we can get "papers" through somewhere to back this up and then nobody could argue since they are registered.
     
  7. SamThePitbull

    SamThePitbull Good Dog

    I agree here. It just seems silly that ONLY registered dogs can have breed names. Arent we always telling people to know the breed you own so you can take care of that breed's special needs? How can people do that if every non-registered breed is a "mutt" and nothing else?
     
  8. PrettyPitty

    PrettyPitty Good Dog

    Agreed!
     
  9. SamThePitbull

    SamThePitbull Good Dog

    x3
     
  10. Fieldmarshal

    Fieldmarshal Big Dog

    You are arguing something else entirely.

    This argument has nothing to do with the pureness of the dogs bloodlines or breedings, and this argument also has nothing do with the dogs that are already registered who may or may not be pure.

    You cant use yourself as a example because you know the ancestory of your dogs, but the question of the thread is, if you know you have a actual mutt from unknown ancestory and breeding, what do you call it.

    To me, if you dont know, just admit you dont know and call it a mutt..a mix..a mongrel...or w.e. There is no reason to attach a registry based breed name to a unknown dog purely based on looks. It creates confusion and breeds ignorance.

    Now you have the govt getting into the lets start naming and identifying breeds based on looks alone, and it becomes easy picking for bsl. Oh lets ban pitbulls...how do you know its a pitbull...well if it "looks" like one...its banned. Its nonsensical.

    People should be just happy with whatever dogs they have, and not try to superfically add breed names to their mixes.
     
  11. Adrianne

    Adrianne Big Dog

    What a waste of breath. I care more about the character of the dog than the label of its origin.

    Monkeys, that doesn't look like a mal to me. (lol@the irony)
     
  12. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    I call my girl a mutt. Then people are like pit bull? I say I believe that could be possible. << I don't think there is anything wrong with this.
     
  13. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    Thank you
     
  14. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    what"s the grief with mutts any way ?
    some of the best dogs i have known were lurchers,.
     
  15. SamThePitbull

    SamThePitbull Good Dog

    I go back to my original argument: How can we encourage people to know their breed so they can better take care of their dog and then turn around and say any dog that isnt registered is a mutt and nothing more? Hypocritical. *to me* it just sounds like people with registered dogs want to feel special and they cant feel special if other people call their mutts by a breed name.

    Note: I dont think you should call your dog by a breed name unless it obviously resembles that breed and you should still include that it is a mix. But like that picture of the chihuahua I posted, that dog should be allowed to be called a Chi mix.
     
  16. DancesWithCurs

    DancesWithCurs Good Dog

    I love a good lurcher. Particularly greyhound/pointer crosses
     
  17. SamThePitbull

    SamThePitbull Good Dog

    This was my child hood dog. RIP Charlie. We called him a Jack Russel Terrier mix. Did we know FOR 100% SURE? Nope, but he was still a jack russel mix to us and I dont see a problem with that..
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  18. Tahlz

    Tahlz Good Dog

    I totally agree.

    I don't see what is wrong with calling your dog what it is. Serenity is defiantly a Kelpie x ACD so why should I not give her a breed name when I know what she is?

    Guage may not have had papers but I'm pretty sure he was a Purebred SBT. I would have been happy to say STB mix because he did look exactly like the breed.

    Sunny, huh. I'll just call him my Purebred Mutt from now on. I really don't know what he is though I think he has Lab.
     
  19. PrettyPitty

    PrettyPitty Good Dog

    I agree with all of this. As for the first part, I hadn't thought of it quite the way you put it, but it really is hypocritical, isn't it.
     
  20. Fieldmarshal

    Fieldmarshal Big Dog

    People do not need to know their breed to be responsible owners, the same rules apply to every breed/mix, multiple dog homes shouldnt leave their dogs alone unattended, homes with kids shouldnt leave their dogs and kids unsupervised, dont take your dogs to dog parks, always have your dog on a leash outside of your property...etc etc
     

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