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Cropping show and pet dogs

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Big Block Bullies, Dec 28, 2014.

  1. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    I think it has a pocket that was never posted out.

  2. I'm glad to see that this is the answer I'm getting more often than not here and a couple other places I've asked. I have gotten a couple "Pits are required to have cropped ears" that worries me a bit (if you don't know what the breed is supposed to look like I wonder if you have the breed knowledge to own an APBT) but overall it's either do or don't based on personal preference alone.
  3. Cobalt

    Cobalt Little Dog

    Several kennels we approached when researching a new Presa pup gave us the option of cropping or not, we decided not to but just a personal thing - like 'em better that way. No problem with those who prefer too, and as mentioned earlier the kennels told us if we were going to show, then cropping is a good thing as most UKC judges seem to be biased that way. It's all cosmetics, do what makes you feel good.
  4. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    I like the look of cropped ears, that's the main reason my boys (who are Amstaffs) are cropped. I will say that yes, it is some what of a "fad" in the show ring and because I do show in conformation, that was another reason I cropped. There are a few natural earred dogs starting to pop up though, and I think that's great. Although I must say, a well done crop really accentuates a really nice head. I'm a total crop snob though.. most crops that I see I can't stand. A bad crop can completely ruins a dogs head.. like when they leave too much bell, or are uneven, or they cut the tips off the ears, I could go on.

    Now my female Piper, who is a mutt and "just" a pet, her ears are natural. I probably wouldn't crop a Bully breed dog (APBT, Amstafff, whatever) that I only intended on having as a pet. Just something I wouldn't spend the money on. I do wish I had known about taping ears when I got her years ago since her ears are so goofy.

    Here's one of my crew all together..

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  5. Hey this is also a subject I struggle with as well. I never know if its a good idea or bad idea. BUT...I will say it would depend on your audience. You brought up alot of different scenerios, so i think if you are a breeder and cropped ears are the "flavor of the month" lol then thats what you should go with. And same thing with show dogs, I think you have to see what kind of dog is winning. I think its just like the detailed rottweilers. I dont get it, but hey its the thing to do to your rott. Cosmetically...I think if the dog isnt hunting, they dont need the pinpoint accuracy too much, so you can go off what you think looks best. Just my opinion.

  6. I also prefer the cropped look. I have never in my 13yrs of showing experience known a judge to pick a dog with cropped ears over a dog with natural ears as the reason for choosing the winner. They look at movement and confirmation. If the dog has nice natural ears there's no need to crop unless it's just a personal preference. I am debating on what to do as my time is running out with my 10 week old as he has very nice natural ears but my last dog's ears were cropped and I just like how they look. As far as spaying a bitch, it does have it's health benefits. The younger the better. IMO all females should be spayed by the age of six, or as soon as they are champions. In most cases that is way sooner than six years. My dog was barely 2 when she got her champion title. Also females who have false pregnancy issues are at a higher risk for mammary tumors/cancer. I can't speak for males though. My dog had several false pregnancies and ended up with mammary tumors that were thankfully benign. Breast cancer is the biggest reason to spay your female IMO. The earlier they are spayed the less the chances are of it happening and it's by a large percentage.
  7. Very nice looking dogs and a well done job on the ears :)
  8. durock

    durock Puppy

    I used to crop most.cut down on ear problems.now i would look for a head that looks good with natural ears.prefer 4-6 month old pups if i am buying.
  9. EstyEsty

    EstyEsty Little Dog

    You are so cool and accurately to the point. I love your posts and replies. !
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  10. Capt. Roxy

    Capt. Roxy Good Dog Premium Member

    I know! I haven't heard from Sins in a while but there has been less stupid on the forum lately... so maybe that's why? :coldsweat:
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  11. TWadeJ

    TWadeJ Big Dog

    You calling me stupid??? :)
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  12. Capt. Roxy

    Capt. Roxy Good Dog Premium Member

    Lol!! Hey, hey, heyyy I said LESS stupid is on now! :P
  13. Worg

    Worg Big Dog

    I don't necessarily find it abusive, but I would not choose a breed I did not like in it's natural form. Having seen the brutal process in person, the screaming pain these pups wake up in and how long the healing process is, I just can't bring myself to do it to one of my own. It's pretty much a coin toss as to whether it turns out even and decent looking, and when an infection happens they can pretty much be screwed after that. I have seen so many butchered crop jobs, the risk is not worth the result to me.

    There is the argument of working purpose, but it's extremely rare for a working dog to have it's ears damaged while 'on duty'.
  14. Worg

    Worg Big Dog

    I hate to say it, as it is too late now obviously to do anything, but that crop is pretty uneven. I only mention it because it might be worth looking into another vet for the next dog.

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