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Crate training Max

Discussion in 'Bull Terrier Training' started by whiteguyjames, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. whiteguyjames

    whiteguyjames Little Dog

    Hey all,

    I was just looking for a little advice when it comes to crate training Max. As of right now I have two crates for him, one smaller for while he's a puppy and a larger one for when he's older. After doing a bit of reading, I have found it's better to let a dog sleep in their crate and not in the bed. I am looking for some tips as to how he can get more used to sleeping in his crate. Right now he just whines and whines and whines. The only things in the crate are a clean towel and a stuffed animal. I also put him in there while I am not able to be with him. Anyways, any tips would be appreciated. I feel like I'm murdering him when I put him in the crate because he cries all night long, but I feel it's better that he's used to being in the crate instead of my bed. Just as an add-in, I usually try to tire him out really good before I put him in the crate. I also give him a treat when he goes into the crate. I take him to use the restroom before he goes in as well as twice throughout the night.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Rogue Bullies

    Rogue Bullies Good Dog

    Your doing a good thing by using the crate. Puppies will cry for the first week or even longer sometimes, but once they get use to their crates they learn to like them. My bully loves his!

    You are doing everything correctly just make sure the crate is always a positive. Don't use it for punishment and always give a treat when he goes in or something to keep him busy. Maybe even try a super special treat that he doesn't get often like some lunch meat or something. One thing that really helped me is exercising the pup a lot right before crate time and then putting a blanket over the crate and keeping it in a quite place. This should help quite a bit for him to fall asleep. Ignore any crying don't give the pup any attention when its crate time and he cries. He will learn.

    Good luck!
     
  3. whiteguyjames

    whiteguyjames Little Dog

    Yeah that's basically what I'm doing so far. I hate to hear him cry... he sounds so pathetic :( The other day one of my roommates was like, "Are you killing your dog in there??" Haha... but yeah, I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and hopefully he will get used to it. On another note, what the heck can I put in his crate for padding? I've been putting towels down but if he poops on them I have to wash them and put in a new one. I'm going through towels way too fast!
     
  4. Rogue Bullies

    Rogue Bullies Good Dog

    Regulate the food and water intake. If you leave it out all day for him to eat/drink he will poop and pee all day. None about 3-4 hours before bed time. I use to use a piddle pad over the towels or blanket and get up in the night to take the pup out as I normally wake though the night anyway. Sometimes they will still go in the crate and there is nothing you can do, but these are good ways to prevent it. Also if you use the piddle pads try bitter spray on it because they will chew them up a lot of the times. Little bullies are bad :lol:
     
  5. When I crate trained my current terrier mix, what I did was start with the crate on the bed for a couple nights, then on a small table beside the bed a few more nights, then on the floor next to the bed, and eventually away from the bed. When he would start to whine, I would stick my fingers into the cage for a little rub. I would leave my fingers there, almost like a soother, until he settled down. This would happen fairly frequently the first night or 2, but less each night so that after about a week, when you are ready to move the crate away from the bed, he was fine. This approach was recommended by my breeder and is a different one than ignoring him, as has been suggested by Rogue, but it definitely worked for my dog. I am sure the other approach works as well - just less whining this way (althought it might take a few more nights). I find terriers are too head-strong to simply give up when being ignored. I think this way allows them to feel more comfortable and safe in their crate, making it a positive place for them. And NEVER use your crate as confinement punishment.
     
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  6. Rogue Bullies

    Rogue Bullies Good Dog

    I think it depends on the dog, but if my dogs are crying and I go in and give them attention then they think that crying = attention which is a positive therefore they continue to do it. I think putting it on the bed might be a good idea for the first few nights though if you have room. However I move and get up to much in the night I would probably wake the pup.
     
  7. whiteguyjames

    whiteguyjames Little Dog

    Well last night it seems like he whined a little bit less. It's a little hard to tell because I laid down after watching some TV and was OUT until I woke up early this morning to let him out. I'm sure he'll be fine doing your approach Rogue... he's just a baby and babies cry a lot, lol.
     
  8. tperez311

    tperez311 Little Dog

    Definetly hold strong to leaving that pup in the crate, puppy will cry and cry endlessly for you because its used to sleeping with you, but it will eventually get used to the crate and find safety and comfort in that crate...when mia was a puppy she slept with me a lot, then i tried to move her into a laundry basket beside the bed and she'd cry unless i put my arm into it, then i'd try to take it out once she slept and she'd wake right up and cry again, so right in the crate she had to go and just let her cry away until she sleeps....HOWEVER, I also had CHICOS crate right next to hers so that probably helped, she'd sleep right up against the side that he'd be on lol.... ALSO the blanket idea works well , putting a blanket over their crate, it works well FOR CHICO, but for mia who is a notorious chewer to this day, she will find a way to pull the blanket slight intot he cage so she can commense to chewing it up...
     
  9. whiteguyjames

    whiteguyjames Little Dog

    Thanks for the tips man. It seems like I am on the right track. For now I will just have to get used to him crying and hold strong lol.
     
  10. Rogue Bullies

    Rogue Bullies Good Dog

    I never had mine sleep in the bed with me, but they still normally cry the first week or so regardless. Its so hard to potty train if the pup sleeps in your bed because they just get up and go and don't learn to hold it as quickly. Then you have a mess all over your bed haha!
     
  11. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    Yea dogs dont want to eliminate where they sleep, so they learn to hold it. I remember when we got Zahra the pit mix and we put her in her crate for the first time and said good night zahra! We (me and my ex) went to sleep and woke to a blood curling scream. We both looked at each other like WTH?!? Zahra screamed like a dieing banshee. It sounded like she was lit on fire it was so loud and horrendous. We ignored it, and she stoped after a few days, the dog is acutally a mute now, and will bark maybe once every 6 months! lol.
     
  12. whiteguyjames

    whiteguyjames Little Dog

    Hey guys just wanted to update you on the thread... Max has been doing extremely well in his crate. He only whines early in the morning if he needs to go out or is hungry. Thanks to everyone for any advice given!
     
  13. Rogue Bullies

    Rogue Bullies Good Dog

    Glad hes doing well! :D
     

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