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Castration,Ear Cropping=Unnecessary Mutilation

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Jim, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    In my case, I show conformation with 2 of my dogs. You can show with natural ears (they have to be "perfect"), but you mainly see cropped dogs. I also like the look of a cropped dog.

    I have a pet dog that is natural.. I personally don't see the point in cropping a pet dog, but it's a personal choice.
  2. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest


    Which dog looks more threatening to you? And do either of these dogs look like they lack "character?" What does "character" mean to you, exactly?

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  3. innoko

    innoko Big Dog

    Love this post!
  4. Moss29

    Moss29 Puppy

    I just don't think it is right to mess with an animals anatomy just for personal preference. "Character" in appearance, for me, is a unique and original look, and by cropping the ears I feel it uniforms the dogs.

    Furthermore, with a breed like the pit bull, breeders and owners should be trying to restore societies faith in the breed. This will benefit the breed and the owners. The really short cropped ears almost resemble horns which doesn't help the public's preconception of a dangerous dog.
  5. Beki

    Beki Good Dog Premium Member

    I love history and tradition. And with that being said, you do realize the reason for the procedure, correct? Just as with tail docking, there is as reason why it is done.
  6. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    Quite frankly, if someone is going to be afraid of one of my dogs, they're going to be afraid regardless of if they're cropped or not. I get more people afraid of Wilson than any of my other dogs, and he has natural ears..


    Probably because he's big, about 65lbs. But who knows.

    Being that all of my dogs are CGC's, and two of them are certified therapy dogs through TDI, among other things, I'm doing my part to promote a positive image.
  7. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    Ear cropping age?

    Spaying and neutering is also done for personal preference. I guess you're against that too. :no2:
  8. Moss29

    Moss29 Puppy

    I know why the docking of tails was carried out in history, but why carry this tradition on in non working dogs? As far as cropping of ears goes, I don't know the history behind it...what is it?
  9. Moss29

    Moss29 Puppy

    You sound like a one dedicated owner. Love the fact that you have two certified therapy dogs, definitely a good cause. :sonn_u11:
  10. Moss29

    Moss29 Puppy

    no, of course not. Spaying and neutering can help a dog that is consumed by its hormones.
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  11. Beki

    Beki Good Dog Premium Member

    Ear cropping can be traced all the way back to Roman times. Believe it or not, all dogs of every breed started out with specific type work in mind. Primarily, some of the first dogs that were kept to 'work' for humans in aiding with hunting.
    Annnnnd, I have earned my tile of The Google Queen...
    Animal Legal Historical Center - Michigan State University College of Law

    History lesson for the day :-)
  12. Beki

    Beki Good Dog Premium Member

    And....here is a breed of dog that traditionally would be cropped.....blech! IMG_20140110_170800.jpg
  13. Moss29

    Moss29 Puppy

    Lovely looking Doberman, but still not entirely clear on WHY the ears were cropped for these breeds? Stop them being torn while working?
  14. John Sauceda

    John Sauceda Big Dog

    "An erect eared dog can localize the source of a sound to within a 5 degree cone,whereas a drop eared dog can only localize a sound source to within a 20 degree cone.* Since Dobermans do SEARCH AND DETECTION as well as SEARCH AND RESCUE, cropped ears are a decided advantage."

    Taken from the Doberman Pinscher Club of America.
  15. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

    SAR dogs are trained in scent detection- either ground trailing or air scenting. It's not about hearing anything, and it's not what the dogs are utilized for.

    I also believe that that study cannot be considered accurate for dogs whose ears are cropped and not naturally pricked, as the ears are missing many physiologic attributes that likely contribute to the auditory supriority of pricked ears. Compare the ears of a german shepherd to the cropped ears of a doberman, in terms of the ears' physical properties, and you'll note the differences in structure.

    I don't care whether you crop or don't, but you can't use a study like that to justify it.
  16. Buddy's Master

    Buddy's Master Little Dog

    I support neutering of dogs 100%, but I think the method/surgery used is still primitive.
    Sure there must be easier and cheaper ways that vets are not telling us about.
    It's more money for them if a dog/bitch goes through surgery than if some special drug gets administered to them that will serve the same purpose (it also happens with human doctors too).
  17. newmama562

    newmama562 Puppy

    there are but I wouldn't use them on my dogs and cats!!!! I personally like a Pitbull with floppy ears I think they are cute. Now I also like min pins and have had two one who's ears were cropped one who had huge floppy ears. On a min pin I prefer cropped ears. My baby boy still looked like a bat, but he looked like the breed is supposed to, Sunshine my female min pin just looked sad half the time and when her ears were up they looked way to big on her head.
  18. 2bestbuds

    2bestbuds Puppy

    Cropping ears affects the way dogs communicate cropping ears disrupts that so they might be sending other messages by accident
  19. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    Interesting. My cropped dogs are pretty darn expressive with their ears. Have never had a problem with them with other dogs.
  20. 2bestbuds

    2bestbuds Puppy

    It might depend on how you much you crop and the length, its banned in our country as well

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