Im pretty sure an APBt breeder crossed a mastiff into the mix way before ambullies were around(whopper).Maybe this should be moved. but here is what you requested.
When you add oother breeds (mastiffs) and then keep them registered as APBT's thats paper hanging.
And where did he say mastiffs? He said different breeds right? Amstaff, and APBT are different breeds! That was my point.
And there were plenty....plenty of gamedogs that weights 75-80lbs +. Plenty. I am not disputing the fact that many breeders (if thats what you wanna calle'm) today are throwing others shit into the mix, and some admit it, but I am stating that is not how it started, you are acting like whne someone says Amstaff and APBT are crossed its not mixing breeds.....it is.
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