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Can I ask a breeding questions about another breed?

turtleman9100

Little Dog
If not I understand but this is a general question about breeding. My sister has a min pin. Every female in my family wants one. Pets only. Knowing that they only have 3 to 4 pups anyway, I suggested taking the dog to the vet to see if she can have pups first, then call the breeder she got her from to find a possible stud and go for it. She got the ok from the vet so then she went to the breeder. The breeder says that she has sole rights to the breeding of this dog. No contract was ever signed or produced. The only paper work my sister got from the breeder was AKC litter paper which she sent in and received full AKC certificate stating her as sole owner. Before I tell her to find another breeder with a good stud, i want to make sure that this original breeder actually has no rights. Please Advise..
 
If not I understand but this is a general question about breeding. My sister has a min pin. Every female in my family wants one. Pets only. Knowing that they only have 3 to 4 pups anyway, I suggested taking the dog to the vet to see if she can have pups first, then call the breeder she got her from to find a possible stud and go for it. She got the ok from the vet so then she went to the breeder. The breeder says that she has sole rights to the breeding of this dog. No contract was ever signed or produced. The only paper work my sister got from the breeder was AKC litter paper which she sent in and received full AKC certificate stating her as sole owner. Before I tell her to find another breeder with a good stud, i want to make sure that this original breeder actually has no rights. Please Advise..

I literally see at least one purebred min pin on death row every time I go to animal control. I would suggest your family avoid the drama all together and just adopt min pins from a shelter.

I'm not sure where you're located, but here are 309 min pin puppies in shelters looking for homes: http://www.petfinder.com/pet-search...ocation=30316&lon=-84.3349&startsearch=Search
 

turtleman9100

Little Dog
really? I would have never thought that. Thanks for the info....

---------- Post added at 11:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:49 PM ----------

wow, I see dasher in ATL. He looks adorable. Man, people are nuts for letting all of these animals die.
 

Hucklebutt

Banned Back Yard Breeder
The original breeder has no rights to the dog. No contract, she has full rights. Adopting is a wonderful thing, but not for everyone. Some people want a fresh start to dogs, with no history or possible bad habits or poor temperaments. If you can adopt thats great! Otherwise, I see no problem in breeding your female for your family. Have everyone read up on the breed, health problems and temperament. Than acknowledge a way to be sure none of the pups will end up in the shelter to be sure everyone is on the same page on getting one. Just my two cents.
 

bluestark

American Bully Moderator
I agree, what that breeder is saying is ABSURD. Is your sisters name is the ONLY name currently on the papers then yes she has SOLE rights. If the breeders name were on the papers as "joe & jen" then she would have some rights. Now if it is registered to "joe OR jen" then she has some rights but each one can breed without the other knowing.
If your sisters name is the only one then no one has rights but her. Tell that breeder to F off. LOL
There is really no way to tell if one is going to end up in shelter, just know that you sisters RESPONSIBILITY will be to breed, take VERY GOOD care of pups, PLACE THEM in good homes with your family, AND TAKE THEM BACK if anything ever happened and one your family members couldn't keep the pup anymore.
HER responsibility keeps going for YEARS!
 

KanoDog

Puppy
If not I understand but this is a general question about breeding. My sister has a min pin. Every female in my family wants one. Pets only. Knowing that they only have 3 to 4 pups anyway, I suggested taking the dog to the vet to see if she can have pups first, then call the breeder she got her from to find a possible stud and go for it. She got the ok from the vet so then she went to the breeder. The breeder says that she has sole rights to the breeding of this dog. No contract was ever signed or produced. The only paper work my sister got from the breeder was AKC litter paper which she sent in and received full AKC certificate stating her as sole owner. Before I tell her to find another breeder with a good stud, i want to make sure that this original breeder actually has no rights. Please Advise..
If there is no contract and she got Full AKC papers and the breeder is NOT listed as co owner she can breed the dog if she wants to whether the breeder likes it or not. BUT I will tell you Min Pins are CRAZY puppies. We had a litter of Min Pins a few years ago and they were horrible. from the time they were about 5 weeks till they were 8 weeks all they did was fight with each other. And when I say fight I mean I was going in and pulling them off each other constantly throughout the day to the point we had to keep them separated most of the time. They were great with people, and both their mom and dad were people and dog friendly so I don't know what was up with them but I do know Min Pins are pron to being dog aggressive since they are terriers. If you don't mind my asking who is the breeder your sisters dog came from? Also I see TONS of Min Pins on Craigslist of all colors pretty regularly so maybe you could kind of suggest that to them first before breeding. IF she does breed she needs to have the eyes cerf'd and the knees OFA'd to make sure they don't have luxating patellas.