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bully haters?

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by mckyndree, Jun 8, 2010.

  1. Mighty Mouse

    Mighty Mouse Little Dog


    I agree with the whole section I underline. When talking amongst ourselves on here or at shows or whatever then yeah absolutely call it what it is. Even at first when people ask you, call it what it is. I am just saying that its not the end of the world if we can't convince every member of the GP that a APBT, amstaff, and bully are different dogs. When you have that guy who is hell bent on calling your dog a pitbull because he is scared from the media, don't let it ruin your day, embrace it and try to let your dog show him that not all "pit bulls" are killers because you know what he is exactly who votes yes to the BSL and by being hell bent on convincing him that the tv lied to him, which isnt going to change much because he will most likely shrug it off as soon as he walks away, you could just be reinforcing his opinion of these dogs and their owners.

    I tend to agree with whoever said you are not 100% positive unless you personally know the breeder, his/her practices, and atleast 4-5 generations.

    As for the person with the BC(great dog by the way)....it's the same thing. try to teach at first but if they are unwilling to learn then let it be and enjoy your dog.

    If some guy calls my honda an acura I dont let it ruin my day and if someone calls my "i dont know" a APBT or "pit bull" or whatever they want to call it, I dont care. While they call it whatever nothing happens, its the same dog befor during and after regardless of what "that guy" thinks:sonn_u11:

    if someone calls my browning a winchester- i dont care, even if I am at a gun range and have my "papers" with it. if this person isn't willing to learn I am not going to let it ruin my day...I smile and say "yeah your right have a nice day." Am I concerned he is going to tell someone else it is a winchester? not really because whoever he is telling it to, unless they are also a moron, will see that he has no clue what he is talking about and brush it off.

    if someone calls my couch a chair- i dont care


    Like I said, I just don't think it is worth the time to try and educate the GP, which I think we all agree is moronic, when they do not want to learn. If someone is interested and wants to learn then by all means have at it, but if not just let it go:dance2::whistling::sonn_u11:

    There are bigger fish to fry, more important things in life is all I am saying

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    off topic here but does anyone else agree that Yes if u talk like an ignorant prick, walk like a prick and sound like a prick then you most likely are a prick. Sorry I love it when people ask this because I have the same reply every time...Yes haha
     
  2. youknow2

    youknow2 Big Dog

    American Bullies are just posers when you call them APBT. I got to admit pitbull sounds like a stronger name then american bully or mutt . you should never call them APBT
     
  3. Mighty Mouse

    Mighty Mouse Little Dog


    are the dogs the posers or are the owners? aside from being stronger it is also more descriptive. a mutt could be any combination of any dogs, a "pitbull" theoretically has some sort of bully in it somewhere:sonn_u11:
     
  4. youknow2

    youknow2 Big Dog

    When you label an American bully as a APBT yes both owner and dog are posing as one. What do you mean its more descriptive? to who the the American bully or the APBT?
     
  5. Mighty Mouse

    Mighty Mouse Little Dog


    interesting, i am going to have to respectfully disagree there but purely on a semantics point so its irrelevant
    a dog cannot pose as something, i dont think it understands what posing is atleast in respect to imitating something else. the dog is simply being the dog IMO but like i said im just nitpicking here because im bored at work

    it is more descriptive to either one of them, like I said a mutt could have any number of any combinations of dogs so its basicly about as descriptive as saying its a dog. if you say a pit bull it had to have some sort of APBT, am staff, or other bully breed to it, its not much but it atleast gives you something. you atleast have an idea of what the dog should look like roughly, maybe a bit about his general temperment/demeanor
     
  6. ejslks

    ejslks Little Dog

    There were also some that showed in conformation. My husband worked security, and when he told someone for the 20th time to put her dog away, they were asking him why all the dogs were "so small and skinny". He has a very low tolerance for stupidity, but when you're working the show you have to be polite, so I have no idea how he answered her.
     
  7. :violent084::rofl:
     
  8. ina3270

    ina3270 Puppy

    Hi everyone,
    I am new to this site I just joined today and I am also new to being a Pit bull owner. I been reading a lot of post's today and I must say I am a little confused. A friend of ours gave us a little 3 month old Pit Bull (she now just turned 6 month)her papers say she is APBT but now I am reading all this about the Ambully how can I tell the difference? I don't want to sound completly stupit like I said I am first time Pit owner I always had Sheperd's in the past. Of course I have been doing a lot of research on the breed because I know they are very strong breed and I want to know as much as possible about it but this is the first site I came across that is talking about the Ambully how do I tell the difference.
     
  9. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    If you can post up some of the dogs on the pedigree ina3270, we can help you out with explaining what the breeding behind your dog is. :) What kennel club is the pup registered with?
     
  10. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ Good Dog

    If she's 80 lbs with a big head she's most likely an Am Bully.
     
  11. jsorrow

    jsorrow Big Dog

    Or if she is 55lbs like my dog she could also still be a bully lol :)
     
  12. junkyard

    junkyard Puppy

    i havent read the entire thread top to bottom as ive read enough bully threads in the past to get the general jist of it, obviously im not going to be answering any questions as much as voicing an opinion but im sure il hit at least one answer of the standard bully thread!

    to the op, dont worry about what anyone thinks of your dogs you have nothing to prove, or do you? if you like them good for you stick with what you like if thats what makes you happy. now i will argue with you till i am black and blue in the face if thats what you came looking for but there is no real point. i dont feel the need to prove any point to anyone else who owns a different breed simply to make myself feel better about my breed choice im happy and that is that.

    an ambully is just that now, an ambully, it is not even close to being an APBT anymore the main traits of the apbt no longer exist in the ambully and even the traits that would be stock standard in the apbt are gone, something as simple as fitness and wind have been lost a long time ago. You may argue that you have a bully with wind and thats great but at the end of the day if you compared it to a bad reperesentation of an apbt the bully would still have nothing, its not your fault its a typical result of selective breeding for certain things, and the ambully has never ever been selectivly bred for its sporting prowess.

    personally i cant stand the ambully scene the high prices the blue fad simply for a product that i see as inferior, for my likes and needs. ive also done my fair share of bully bashing but i have decided to cease on this, unless im wound up about it! i will never own one so it wont make a difference to me.

    The APBT is the greatest allround performance working breed ever. there is not a single breed out there that can be an all round dog like the APBT, he is the best at lots of things, and the breeds that are better at their given task are not that far ahead of him in their own feild, IF the Apbt is in the right hands.

    A ambully is bred for colour, looks and paychecks, and the main purpose is to prance around a ring and look the "part" i still havent figured what that part is yet but it wont effect me.

    please stop worrying about what other people think about your dogs or breed choice, trust me alot of us learnt that stuff years ago, if we were worried we would be grey haired or bald and ten years older in looks than what we are now from the stress involved. enjoy what you have thats why you got them in the first place for isnt it????
     
  13. ina3270

    ina3270 Puppy

    She is UKC registered
     
  14. ABK

    ABK Good Dog

    Well, I'd say yes. OR ... I could be a perfectly normal person who is telling you the truth & you don't like it, so you lash out at me by calling me a prick. :p

    How are you sure? Do you have the website for that dog? Know the owners?

    And so is that one. Yours might be a better specimen, but both are still AmBullys.

    Why call it an APBT? Ray Charles could tell that dog is an AmBully.

    Yep. But it's still an AmBully. A poor example of an AmBully, but still an AmBuly nevertheless.

    Are you serious???? Have you seen the amount of bully shows & the number of people at them? Have you seen the number of greeders producing dogs like that & selling them as fast as they pop out of the womb?

    I'm sorry, I don't have a ped for that dog. I'm not into AmBullys. :D

    CHJ: I was thinking the same thing! If it walks like a duck ... lol. OR as I mentioned above someone could think you are a "prick" b/c you point out some facts they don't like. Truth hurts sometimes. :lol:

    Blessings & whisker kisses ....
     
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  15. youknow2

    youknow2 Big Dog

    No the dog cant pose at something but a certain type of breed can pose a certain type of traits and a standard for it. You cant campare the strength of an APBT to Ambully or say its more descripitive to the Ambully. Just cause its more bulky doesnt mean its muscle. not an expert on breeding but if you mix other breeds to it like the Ambully arnt you taking out the traits out of it?
     
  16. Mighty Mouse

    Mighty Mouse Little Dog

    :confused: im not sure i am entirely following you hear, first time i read it i said what then the second time i thought oh i got it now but then i just read it again and im back to confused. when you say a certain type of breed can pose a certain type of traits and a standard, for examply reasons are you saying a am staff can pose by showing traits of the APBT? Im not trying to compare the strength of an APBT to Ambully, I am saying that i look at "pitbull" the same as I do terrier, there are multiple kinds of terriers and now we have multiple kinds of "pitbulls." it is a grouping word, if you use it to describe a mutt it gives you a general idea of what the dog should be. just like if someone said its a terrier instead of a mutt, ok there are a bunch of terriers so it should be something like one of them. not sure how much sense im making today because it was a rough night....go hawks!!
     
  17. Deniselynn

    Deniselynn Banned

    Excellent post. Many am bully owners get offended when APBT owners say an an am bully can't compare to the drive an APBT has. You wanted a breed that is separate from the APBT yet am bully owners and breeders would like to think they are on the same level as an APBT. And the same goes for the breeders labeling their dogs as pit bulls. That's like slapping filet mignon on a package of ground meat.
     
  18. youknow2

    youknow2 Big Dog

    im confused as well, im just saying that the Ambully world BYB need to stop calling there dang dogs APBT or pitbull. its kinda funny when i see a 100+ pounds or so with a huge head and a huge as body being called a terrier :lol: . No offense to people who own Ambullys but i believe Dave Wilson F*ucked every thing up.
     
  19. Pink

    Pink GRCH Dog


    Actually, Dave Wilson didnt f*ck it up. The first AmBullies he created were NOT the huge behemoth dogs you see today. Byb's are the ones to blame. They are the ones that have f*cked the AmBullies reputation up by breeding the dogs to english bulldogs, and mastiffs...ect.!
     
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  20. youknow2

    youknow2 Big Dog

    i see.
     

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