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Bull terriers in India

Discussion in 'Bull Terrier' started by wscott00, Oct 19, 2011.

  1. wscott00

    wscott00 Puppy

    I have been doing as much research as I can on bull terriers and what they have changed from leggier athletic terrier types to to larger bull dog types dogs with the egg shaped head. It seams very similar to the german shepard dog. The AKC show dog has been bred, and bred for extreme angle and color and is no longer a german shepard.
    When i look at the modern bull terrier compared to the dogs from the 60's I see the same change in the breed. From what i read, some believe that bull terriers are alive and well in india. I keep coming across pictures of bull terriers that do not have the egg shaped head, that are lean and athletic looking.

    Does anyone know about these dogs?

    Thanks
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  2. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    you may find these of interest !!GullTerrier- Males Picture Gallery / uk/imgres?q=bully+kutta&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbnid=vjy4iAhNX3ZQjM:&imgrefurl=http://mustwatchdogs.blogspot.com/&docid=I5WfQUF_wi

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    you may find these of interest /http://molosserdogs.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=241&pos=234 /http://beasts-from-the-east.webs.com/gullterrier.htm

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    whoops i don"t know what happened there !!
     
  3. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    damn those dogs from that first website look sooo terrable!! one of them has an obvious eye infection so bad you can barely see its eyes past all that mucus and crust :( how very very sad
     
  4. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    yup it"s sad that in certain parts of the world animals can be held with little regard for health and welbeing, there"s some guys in England breeding "hinks old time bull terriers " will try and find a link !

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    found it here ya go ! hinksoldtymebullterriers.webs.com
     
  5. wscott00

    wscott00 Puppy

    thanks for the links and input. do you know where u who will export one to the states
     
  6. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    You know, if you're looking for a taller and more narrow faced dog, you can try seeing if there is any in rescues around you. Maybe someone has a staffy/ bt mix or just a "badly" bred one? My girl fits that description i think and she was wondering around as a stray...
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    Here is one with the face that you like, but obviously very overweight that's up for adoption right now:
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    Some more in S California
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    What state do you live in?
     
  7. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    Another one, couldn't resist! So gorgeous!
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  8. wscott00

    wscott00 Puppy

    I live in NC. I have been involved in schutzhund, k9 and personal protection training for a few yrs and within the German shephard i see a huge difference in the different lines. This dog will be a pet but i will do some training just to stay busy.
    When i was younger a neighbor had a bull terrier that was a great dog. He could run and jump all day, then get up the next morning and do the same. I have close to no knowledge about the bull terrier. What do you mean by badly bred?

    Id like a dog that is bred for nerve drive and trainability with no thought given to the show ring.

    Any help or reference material would be greatly appreciated
     
  9. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    I'm new to the breed, so I can't help there. By "badly bred" I just meant not bred to the show standard. I think many member's bullies on here are very energetic. Maybe they can help?
     
  10. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    perhaps you may be looking for a bull terrier from "sporting" lines ! they are far from being "badly bred", they are bred for function and not exagerated beauty..these dogs do exist in eastern europe and there are some purists in England, i know the Russians still use them ! j
     
  11. pookie!

    pookie! GRCH Dog

    COOL! See I like the origional style Bull Terriers, I dont like the over done head, my friend has been trying to get me to get one lol but I would like a sporting one I guess, the one that has the semi-normal head and longer legs?
    Thanks Jacko! I love that you know stuff like that! Makes me have hope I could actually get a BT like that now that I know where to look! :)
     
  12. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    Even most "show" bull Terriers have drive! most people see show bullys as nothing but lazy sacks of potatos when they really can get up and go!
    im persoanlly happy to hear that its difficult to find alot of working bull terrier breeders in teh US not that i dont like them just the US is filled with stupid people who want a dog who sits around all day getting no excersize just looking cute not many americans really do have the time for a working dog of any breed how awful would it be to get a flood of working BT out into the general public who just thought they would look like a cool lawn ornimant.

    even htough i would NOT consider cesar my male an athletic BT like at all when he wants somthing he is VERY determined he has a ball that he goes INSANE for and i mean insane he will go after it at high speed for hours none stop if you take it away he is so focused on that ball he wont take his eyes off ti for a second you could wave an entire steak in front of his face and he woulndt flinch! if you can find somthing to motivate them like a speciel toy you really dont need to go looking all over the place for a "working" bull terrier as most of them have alot of detrimination and drive anyways even those round little barrel dogs you see in the show rings
     
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  13. pookie!

    pookie! GRCH Dog

    @Chairity, if people started having the working bull terriers in America I dont doubt they would be the new "pit bull" and be in the same situation as a lot of pit bull typed dogs, everyone wants a bully breed but no one wants to work them and train them like they need. This country ruins dogs and dog breeds.

    As for me getting a BT I would want a working one, their body style and head shape is everything I want in a BT, no offense to BT owners who have the show looking dogs, but they arent my cup of tea, I dont like the way they look at all. I dont doubt the show typed dogs and their drive, I have seen a few full show bred BTs and they can have some serious drive and determination onto whatever it is they are after. I love that about them, but aesthetically I just dont like them, I have always loved looking at old style BTs and something about that body shape and head shape is what I personally want and now that I know I can possibly get that from over seas, its awesome!
     
  14. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    Didn't mean to offend with the "badly bred" phrase. When talking about shelter dogs, I doubt that those dogs are bred with some goal in mind, especially for working, therefore the "badly bred" phrase came in.

    I don't think that function and looks are as related as people think they are in the breed! My girl is leggy and narrow-faced but still a couch potato most of the time. Justus's dogs have a nice head and are less leggy than mine and look what sports they can do! I think there are some more members here that do weight pull and their dogs look very BT like.

    Maybe if you focus on either buying from a breeder who does sports with the dogs instead of focusing on head shape and leg length, or selecting the dog from a shelter that has the right energy for you?
     
  15. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    no offence taken !! most people only see the show type dogs of any breed and when they see a working variant they scoff out of ignorance "ooh look at that ,must be a cross" type thing.. some bull terrier breeders dont like where the exaggerated look is going ,and are trying to preserve good blood regardless of beauty. respect to them .working dogs are not for everyone though as many can"t handle the fire in them . check this link ! peace , j http://dogs.bsl-sbt.com/dogs/hinksbullterrier.php?s=&l=

     
  16. wscott00

    wscott00 Puppy

    does anyone know about these Exalibur's bull terriers? the videos seem to be from the 90's
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  17. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    yes americans DO ruin dogs becuase they tend to treat them as "things" and not living breatheing animals very sad.

    if you dont like the look of the "show" bred bullies why not adopt one from a shelter like in the picsaprotopo showed? they need homes and have the look you like.

    i personally like the show dog look the thick bodies with the round heads i dont however like the overexaturated heads or the overweight bullies i like to be able to see there muscles i guess the reason i like the show look over the older style look is becuase the older style look elegant,handsome "pretty" dogs where as to me the look now days i would deff not call elegant or pretty but cute and adorable lol not htat i dont like elegant and handsome looking dogs but i like the cuter ones more HAHA
     
  18. Nutty

    Nutty Little Dog

    exalibur's bull terriers where bred in germany, but the kennel dont exist anymore. but in germany are 2 breeders of bt, who are bred 4 performance ;)
     
  19. wscott00

    wscott00 Puppy

    do those kennels have websites or a way to be contacted
     
  20. kamikaze

    kamikaze Good Dog

    not to go off topic..but i just wanted to add that even tho they are in the shelter..doesnt mean they couldnt be pure bred and papered. Ppl get the notion that ALL dogs at the shelter are mixed and as u worded 'badly bred'.

    IDK anyhting about this breed. BUUUT what i have seen of them..they are pretty unique. Ive never met one in person..but would like to someday! :)
     

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