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Bull terriers failed as fighting dogs?

Discussion in 'Bull Terrier' started by adjecyca, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    give me a fucking break. a man who matched dogs vs a sick twisted pedophile...not even close. I don't match my dogs and have no interest in doing so, but I do know a couple old timers and I can assure you, they are not evil people. they simply grew up in different times when society accepted the sport.
     
  2. x 10! Dog fighting is now illegal, but comparing that to a child abuser/molester!?!?!?!?! Are you kidding me?
     
  3. fctv808

    fctv808 Little Dog


    nah, i know plenty of fighters. it's their job. lol. but they do enjoy smashing people who talk crap before the fight from time to time. and the injuries and setbacks only make them depressed and sometimes abuse substance.

    i'd say the comparison to a dog's "feelings" about it is a bit off. except for maybe the pay. pretty similar imo. lol
     
  4. digs

    digs Puppy

    I've fought professionally myself and know a lot of pro fighters,trust me the vast majority do it for the love of fighting,money is usually just a welcome extra.

    The vast majority including myself can't pay the bills through fighting alone,despite the fact they live and breathe their chosen sport,I've spent hundreds of hours training not to mention gym fees/supplements to get paid £150 for a fight,it's more a life style than career (for most).

    and that doesn't include all the amateurs and pro-am fighters who are often Just as dedicated but don't get paid.
     
  5. fctv808

    fctv808 Little Dog

    what shows have you fought in?
     
  6. fctv808

    fctv808 Little Dog

    also curious where you train fren. i assume you're not in the states as you specified you're not paid in $. i tell you, i've been around the "sport" for quite a long time man. lots of the TRUE PROs i know fight anymore for the paycheck and for the recognition that it brings them that they will not get if left to doing something outside of fighting. many fight beyond when they should stop. it's sad.

    as for the thrill and excitement, you must be really young still and i hope that you never lose that emotion and best of luck in the ring or cage. (should be done in a ring imo)
     
  7. digs

    digs Puppy

    I fight unlicensed boxing and Muay Thai,never had any big fights.I'll be getting my black belt in jujitsu soon,so will probably try my hand at mma also at some point.I train at bad co. most of the time,but mix it up a lot.
     
  8. digs

    digs Puppy

    If we take Muay Thai as an example,I'm friends with a lad who's the European middleweight champion.He trains six days a week and works 6 nights a week driving,he's dedicated his whole life to it knowing he'd never be well paid.
     
  9. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    you English digs ?
     
  10. fctv808

    fctv808 Little Dog

    wow a black belt in "jujitsu" is that the japanese kind?
     
  11. digs

    digs Puppy

    Yeah traditional Japanese (goshin ryu jujitsu Kai),not near the achievement that a bjj black belt is imo because there's no competitions.

    also I don't think it will translate so well into ring fighting,because a lot of it is with weapons,katas and illegal techniques.

    But along with Thai and boxing should stand me in good stead (especially if I keep it all quiet at first lol)
     
  12. My husband partakes in MMA. I love watching. My back won't allow me to train but I'd love to if I were still able.
     
  13. fctv808

    fctv808 Little Dog

    wow i wonder how many fighter related owners there are on here?
     
  14. I don't think they are failed fighting dogs, in south africa the modern version of EBT is still very used on fights and they apparently do very good.
     
  15. bamaman

    bamaman Big Dog

    People used what worked the best plane and simple and what is the best fighting dog in the world ?
     
  16. canarydog

    canarydog Puppy

    There was an article I read from a bull terrier breeder that dismissed the idea that Hinks bred the dogs to fight but rather to show and recognize his breed as distinct from the staffs. Mainly stating that Hinks was a business man with many different gigs going on. He was a prominent breeder of show dogs, and really didn't have the time for training and fighting his dogs. He was intent on developing a unique dog breed and bred to other non fighting dogs. Why would he choose non fighting dogs? I know some came in later, his grandson for one, but he did infuse dalmation early in the breeding. It is claimed that the story of Puss is made up, citing the fact Why would Hinks risk either loosing his dog in a fight or in the ring? It would be awfully difficult for a dog to match for 1/2 hr. then show up in a dog ring unscarred and looking pretty. Given the fact that Mr. Hinks was a bit of a peddler, I could see him advertising his dogs as anything the buyer wanted them to be. But he was clearly more interested in breeding show champions.
    All of this is mere speculation of course, but that is the problem with trying to find out the true history of the bulldogs and there decendnants. Case in point, try to find the history of the old english bulldog through the eyes of bulldog breeders, pit bull breeders and american bull dog breeders and you will find completely incompatible histories, You will notice that there version of the old english bulldog is very similiar to their breed today. In addition to that Pitbull breeders have a different version of the origins of the bull-terrier than bull terrier breeders and some even vary amongst the staffies and the pit bull.
    I have spent thousands of hours studying, I am a nut about this, I have my own opinions on their histories, but I would suggest that if find this subject interesting do your own investigating and come to your conclusions. Its all good and a lot of fun.
     
  17. robertosilva

    robertosilva Little Dog

    If you're a fan of reading up on the old history of the breed you may find this intersting.

    http://hinksoldtymebullterriers.webs.com/drhaucksline.htm

    And these are from my blog taken mainly from old books late 1800's early 1900's some of which are free to read on project Gutenberg, internet archive and google play books.

    If you want any more info or books let me know.

    Bull Terrier | Bull Breed History

    James Hinks and the Bull Terrier | Bull Breed History
     

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