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Bull terrier continues winning ways

Discussion in 'Bull Terrier' started by Vicki, Oct 31, 2009.

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  1. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    amber i see you have accomplished the difficult task of copy and paste. Obviously someone wounded would need to go drag something totally off to feel clever and good about themselves when they have a hard time facing reality in the real topic and have nothing let to say. :lol:

    I can copy and paste, as well.

    but of course this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, obviously you can no longer answer the thread as it is originally posted that you feel you must target me on a different level. its very childish to attempt to hit below the belt at something you know little or nothing about, amber. if you feel you are going to pull a rise out of me and upset me as im sure you have been by most of these threads you better come up with something better its no different than Ausbull on the international forum insisting I have welped a litter of puppies and sold them which never happened the only bitch I own is a puppy. Now I am guilty at an attempt to breed a working dog to another of equal qualities for working in protection training, hog hunting, weight pulling and many other things. these pups were going to be sold in pet homes/working homes and were going to have limited registration and when the dog is proven to be a good worker the limited registration was to be lifted for in the situation of breeding or showing. If not, it would have stayed off as there is a large amount of people on lists looking for working and pet dogs we had already permenate homes for 15-20 puppies before ever deciding to breed. And hopefully we would be able to create a driven, athletic, working bull terrier to bring into the world that there are so few of. However, we were not successful as the breeding did not take, the male may have some fertility issues that need to be seen by a specialist. So he has not reproduced, no
     
  2. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Just want to remind everyone for Rule #7:

    Be respectful. This is harder to define, but will be moderated. An example would be disrespecting pit bull owners who chose a blue dog over a red dog, and "sneering" at them or acting like they're idiots for the choice they made. If a moderator believes you are being purposefully disrespectful to a fellow member, you will be notified. Bashing for the sake of bashing will not be tolerated.


    Remember it's okay to state your opinion, just try to be polite about it. Don't just put people's dogs or opinions down.
     
  3. Bullful

    Bullful Little Dog

    Jim,

    Perhaps you should just Google "Rufus the colored bull terrier" to see just a bit of what he has done. By the way he spent 3 hours at the local nursing home this afternoon, something he does each and every week.
    So besides being a muched loved family member and the top winning bull terrier in history, a breed ambassador, and anti BSL spokesdog, he also gives to the community he lives in.
    This link is a story about one of his recent therapy dog visits.
    http://www.guideposts.com/blog/woof-rufus-therapy-dog-positive-pet-helps-young-children-heal

    Oh, almost forgot, he prefers to sleep under the covers.

    Now Jim, when I google your name will I see any such accomplisments listed?

    ---------- Post added at 09:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:26 PM ----------

    A healthy dog with no issues. I would definitely continue to use him in all of your breeding attempts.

    So who said there is not a higher power.
     
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  4. jonnybegood

    jonnybegood Little Dog

    well that was an interesting read..personally I like Rufus he may not be everyones type and yes there is a type variation in bull terriers that people should be aware of....Rufus has done more for this breed than most.. hes promoting the breed in a positive light and in this day and age of BSL..I thank him for that..
     
  5. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    jonny its very obvious someone went and got you to bring you to this thread to help out bullful and amber on these threads. what kennel are you? because i am pretty certain you are a show fancier/breeder of these exageratted over weight bull terriers-correct?
     
  6. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    *Note: People are allowed to invite their friends to join the forum.
     
  7. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    lol jean i know that!! haha. im just wondering what kennel he is from.
     
  8. jonnybegood

    jonnybegood Little Dog

    just repeat your own words.. thats none of your business..
     
  9. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    alrighty than. :D
     
  10. jonnybegood

    jonnybegood Little Dog

    so your dog may have fertility issues hucklebutt..how is that healthy then?
     
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  11. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    i never said he was healthy did i.
     
  12. jonnybegood

    jonnybegood Little Dog

    I see..

    pls correct me if Im wrong but from reading the posts on here these working dogs are meant to be healthy?

    please elaborate Im always interested in learning more
     
  13. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    johnny your ignorance in irritating me. physically fit dogs are more healthy than a fat dog, its common sense, you know what common sense is, right? i worked for a vet for 2 years and if you really think fat dogs are more healthy than a physically fit dog, than i seriously hope you dont have children. you can not use my dog as the only example he is only one dog. so while i may have some problems with reproduction, which can be anything-including poor timing and incorrect bitches. But since I have not tried with enough bitches to be sure, there may not be a problem at all, we will have to wait and see. I have confidence however, that he is healthier than most over weight dogs in other aspects of the body.
     
  14. jonnybegood

    jonnybegood Little Dog

    I can only respond to what has been posted by you..why would you may need to see a specialist then?




    can you point out quote where I said fat dogs are more healthy than fit ones??

    and I thought this was a friendly educational forum...
     
  15. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    im taking him to see a spechialist because i want to know more, and to be certain.
     
  16. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    in all fairness.....saying a dog is not healthy just because it has a low sperm count or is in fact infertile has absolutely nothing to do with health and general fitness.

    is a top class athlete suddenly a poor specimen or unfit the day he/she discovers they cannot produce children ?....

    hucklebuts dog looks and sounds to be a reasonably healthy fit dog to me,the fact the dog may be infertile has absolutely no relevance to a discussion about health/fitness at all.
     
  17. jonnybegood

    jonnybegood Little Dog

    what are the causes of infertility then?

    you know at the end of the day breeders and fanciers can only do so much as mother nature also does have her say and place in the scheme of things..
     
  18. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    there are a few causes.....only one of which could be directly associated with fitness....and thats OVER FIT !....many supremely fit dogs or humans become infertile due to hormonal imbalance....my guess is this is not the reason in this case.....

    most times it will be congenital that the dog is born with.....on a few occasions it could be an infection within the reproductive tract....also many very inbred dogs have poor fertility or small litters.

    but again.....none of these things really have anything to do with a dog being unfit !


    also....i absolutely agree,at the end of the day breeders can only do so much......BUT...a GOOD breeder will always stack the odds in their favour of producing good animals....and one who does only has to rely a little bit on luck/mother nature
     
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  19. Bullful

    Bullful Little Dog

    A few responses...
    I have no idea who jonnybegood is hucklebutt and I have not invited a single person to join this forum.
    Hucklebutt... your kennel name? Be honest with us....
    I thought your ad stated that your dog was a proven stud who has long ties.
    Were you lying, being purposely misleading or just looking to make some of that money that all the fat dogs make?
    You seem to have a more than healthy fascination with the canine reproductive act.
    If your dog is not healthy being thin then how can you make the generalized statement that all show dogs are all fat and unhealthy?
    As for your stud...Being a little unhealthy is like being a little pregnant.
    A "spechialist" would be highly recommended and while there you may want to consider a doggie vascectomy;-)

    mr. clueless stated the following:

    "in all fairness.....saying a dog is not healthy just because it has a low sperm count or is in fact infertile has absolutely nothing to do with health and general fitness."

    No correlation at all, huh. Any personal experience in that field?

    "is a top class athlete suddenly a poor specimen or unfit the day he/she discovers they cannot produce children ?...."

    there are a few causes.....only one of which could be directly associated with fitness....and thats OVER FIT !....many supremely fit dogs or humans become infertile due to hormonal imbalance....my guess is this is not the reason in this case.....

    Does that hormone imbalance affect the size and performance of the male reproductive system?
    "What is Hormonal Imbalance?

    Hormones play a vital role in every woman’s health and well-being. Very often when women are in a bad mood, you will find that they, or their partners, blame it on their hormones. When hormone levels fluctuate, this can affect your mood, sexual desire, fertility and ovulation. In other words, the imbalance of hormones may impact negatively on how your reproductive system responds.
    Every month, the female hormones estrogen and progesterone are produced. When estrogen and progesterone levels do not balance, this may have a dramatic effect on your health. The gonadotrophin releasing hormone, also affects the functioning of the hypothalamus which in turn affects the pituitary gland, which then affects the ovaries, fallopian tubes and uterus.
    The imbalance of estrogen hormones can also cause menopause and all the symptoms associated with it. These hormones are influenced by certain factors such as nutrition, diet, lifestyle, exercise, stress, emotions, age and ovulation. "

    Please notice that stress is highlighted.. like the stress of excercise, being brought up to a high level of excitement and what of the adrenaline coursing thru his veins?

    "also....i absolutely agree,at the end of the day breeders can only do so much......BUT...a GOOD breeder will always stack the odds in their favour of producing good animals....and one who does only has to rely a little bit on luck/mother nature."

    So mr.clueless, it has only taken you a few more posts to correctly answer your question regarding the reason for health testing.

    You are learning... don't fight it.
     
  20. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    I have no idea who jonnybegood is hucklebutt and I have not invited a single person to join this forum.
    Hucklebutt... your kennel name? Be honest with us....

    never produced puppies or had a litter. therefor, no kennel. i only have 2 bull terriers.


    I thought your ad stated that your dog was a proven stud who has long ties.

    once again i will repeate myself, I was told by the owner of the bitch due to his experiance that she was pregnant when in fact it was due to a false pregnancy.

    Were you lying, being purposely misleading or just looking to make some of that money that all the fat dogs make?

    dont be silly, i dont have champion sperm to do that-oh wait! i got approval to use champion sperm, guess I could.:rolleyes:

    You seem to have a more than healthy fascination with the canine reproductive act.
    If your dog is not healthy being thin then how can you make the generalized statement that all show dogs are all fat and unhealthy?

    never said all show dogs are unhealthy. but the same goes for you bullful, being over weight isnt healthy-doesnt make them a 'little healthy.' its common sense, over weight is not healthy.

    As for your stud...Being a little unhealthy is like being a little pregnant.
    A "spechialist" would be highly recommended and while there you may want to consider a doggie vascectomy;-)

    dream on, I can think of a few humans that need it, tho. :rolleyes:


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    :)

    as i said before-if the breed standard were to change to thin, athletic, muscular bull terriers to never be over weight. the humans would start spinning in circles themselves, and biting imaginary flies! i can imagine some of those people saying to them selves 'oh crap, you mean i have to actually DO something with my dog now? forget it, i quit!'

    lazy overweight dogs with no drive resemble there owners.
     
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