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Bull terrier continues winning ways

Discussion in 'Bull Terrier' started by Vicki, Oct 31, 2009.

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  1. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Administrator

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    Bull terrier continues winning ways
    Saturday, October 31, 2009
    By Linda Wilson Fuoco, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

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    Champion Rocky Top's Sundance Kid is the top-winning colored bull terrier in the history of his breed. He's also the only dog that has ever won Best in Show at both the National Dog Show in Philadelphia and Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show in New York City.

    Back home in Holmdel, N.J., he's just "Rufus" to owners Tom and Barbara Bishop.

    "He's a pet, first and foremost," Mrs. Bishop said in a recent telephone interview. "He's my baby. I've had him since he was 10 weeks old. Rufus is active and clownish and a very loving companion."

    The well-traveled champion was shown by professional handler Kathy Kirk, "but I always traveled with him because Rufus is a very sensitive boy," Mrs. Bishop said.

    You can see the red-and-white dog when he returns to The National Dog Show Presented by Purina and the Kennel Club of Philadelphia. He's the official "Canine Ambassador" for the annual show, which will be on NBC Nov. 26, following the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.

    Rufus retired from the show ring after his Best in Show wins in Philadelphia in 2005 and New York in 2006.

    When he retired from American Kennel Club competitions, "Rufus was very bored," Mrs. Bishop said, despite the company, at home, of four female bull terriers named Serafina, Madeline, Pinky and Gwen.

    "He loved the attention" of big crowds, she said.

    Mrs. Bishop had seen therapy dog demonstrations "and I thought, I'll bet Rufus and I could do that." Rufus took the Therapy Dogs International test and passed on the first try, Mrs. Bishop said with obvious pride.

    "It's the best thing we've ever done."

    His therapy dog schedule includes a visit on Tuesday to the Ronald McDonald House of New York. The Manhattan facility serves the families of children with cancer.

    Therapy dogs visit hospitals, schools, nursing homes and other venues where a well-trained, well-behaved dog can lift spirits. Rufus will be featured during televised coverage of the National Dog Show during segments about therapy dogs.

    Rufus is now 9 years old, and still very active, Mrs. Bishop said.

    Most people have had little or no contact with this breed, but you've seen them on television. Spuds McKenzie was a colored bull terrier who starred in popular beer ads in the 1980s. The Target department stores use a white bull terrier in ads and logos.

    The Bishops have owned bull terriers since 1984. The breed they love is not for everyone, she cautions. Bull terriers weigh 45-80 pounds. They're very strong "and very stubborn," Mrs. Bishop said, and need a strong-willed owner who is familiar with the breed.

    They are generally good with children, but should be well-trained and supervised because their strength and boisterous behavior can be hazardous to small children.

    "Our dogs are always crated when we're not home because they likely would get into mischief," Mrs. Bishop said.

    Go to http://www.btca.com for information about the breed from the Bull Terrier Club of America. There is contact information for breeders and dogs available from the club's rescue volunteers. This week, there were two bull terriers in Pennsylvania, Sugar and Annie, who need new homes, and three in Ohio.
    Buddy's chance

    During the Philadelphia show, the winner of the "Rally To Rescue" contest will be announced. Buddy, a Lhasa Apso featured Oct. 24 in Pet Tales, has been a top vote-getter.

    Almost 20 million people watch the show on television. Over 2,000 dogs are entered, representing 165 breeds and varieties. The show will actually take place on Nov. 14 at the Greater Philadelphia Expo Center. The charity beneficiary of the show is the veterinary hospital of the University of Pennsylvania.

    The TV host for the show is actor John O'Hurley, who many have seen on the Seinfield Show and Dancing With the Stars. The expert analyst is David Frei, an AKC-licensed judge who also hosts USA Network's coverage of the Westminster Kennel Club Show.
    Butler cat show

    Butler Cat Fanciers, Inc. will hold the club's 34th annual show next Saturday from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. at the Family Sports Center, 542 Evans City Road, Butler.

    The show is held in conjunction with American Tabby & Tortie, Inc., a national club that is celebrating its 65th anniversary. Purebred cats and household pets will be competing. There will be six judges from the Cat Fancier's Association.

    Admission is $5 for adults and $3 for children under 12 and seniors. Proceeds benefit the Tigger Neutering Fund.

    Pet Tales appears weekly in the Saturday Home & Garden section. Linda Wilson Fuoco can be reached at lfuoco@post-gazette.com or 412-263-3064. More articles by this author
    First published on October 31, 2009 at 12:00 am

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  2. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    go rufus!! i love rufus but he is such a lil fatty! besides his weight, he is aa perfect example of the breed standard. such a lovely boy!
     
  3. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    only within a certain select few breeds can such a poor overweight unfit physical specimen be rewarded with a trophy !
    a sad sign of the times we live in !
     
  4. Mrpedigree

    Mrpedigree Big Dog

    God you don't say good about anything do ya...every post you make is negetive ...if you don't like the breed ...why post on here..!?
     
  5. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog


    i post on here because i have an admiration for the bull terrier breeds.....the english bull terrier is a dog i started off with back near 30 years ago and it was a far superior dog to whats around today sadly.....hence i have and will continue to use what i have learned to help improve them.
    if you are one of these folk who only have positive things to say about a breed of dog that is at its lowest ever in quality then maybe you are as deluded as the people who created the mess.......but dont expect people to just quietly go along with it and say nothing !
    the breed is ruined....what positives are their in that.
     
  6. Mrpedigree

    Mrpedigree Big Dog

    You sound to me like someone that likes the sound of his own voice...in one sentance you can completly contradict what you say in another:no2:...you see my family have been around EBTs for three generations...so i know pretty much better than most how the breed has changed...Like i said on another post the dogs that are winning in the show ring now days are getting far to big ..some are weighing 40kg ....where back in the 1990 they weighed like 30kg and looked more leaner/fitter !
    But becuase you dont see the athletic terrier types in the ring anymore that doest mean that there are none left and that all EBTs are fat fcukers:lol:...if you thought that you would be a fool.....i still see plenty of the old type game terrier type ebts ....but dont get shown !
    You say you started off back with the bull terrier breed nearly 30 years ago...in what context do you mean by that ?? you breed?? show or what??
     
  7. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    i say to you what i say to every other owner of these dogs who make big claims.....where are these game athletic bull terriers ? where are they been hidden and whats the big undercover secret :rolleyes:
    they do not perform in sporting/athletic events......but " apparently " there are so many around....what are they doing these athletes sitting watching tv on the sofa ?

    considering the message i recieved from you telling me your a gypsy and you want to meet me :lol:.....i,ll take your reply with the same pinch of salt i took your childish private message !
     
  8. Mrpedigree

    Mrpedigree Big Dog

    As for the message I just wanna see this great man with these great dogs hes beating his chest over...but you shitt your pants... it don't look like ether exists:lol:
     
  9. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    i dont think there is ANY NEED for gameness in the bull terrier. I dont need a game bull terrier, i dont fight dogs, nor plan too. Most people dont have a need for a game bull terrier, and most dogmen wont bother with them, they have there own breed they prefer. All you need is a drivey, athletic bull terrier willing to work and never give up. Many bull terriers today have that, and hopefully we wont lose it.

    If your a gypsy that interests me. I dated a gypsy for 2 years, which is extremly rare that they allowed a white girl into there culture. ;)
     
  10. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog


    well carry on wanting.....like im going to invite a complete stranger off the internet onto my yard to see my dogs :rolleyes:

    incidentally,ive never made any claims as to great dogs or a great man.....i think you need to wind your neck in a little bit ;)
     
  11. Mrpedigree

    Mrpedigree Big Dog

    Again a great post;)...i am a romany gypsy here in the UK ..and most of the time we only date our own kind:)
     
  12. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    I dont know what kind he was..he had many last names...:lol: They had there own language they tried to teach me, I know a few words. The women never worked, always wore long jean skirts, the men liked to party, and they liked to gamble and drive trucks. They were such awesome people, very family bonded. They wanted me to marry him, and I was only 14 years old when I was dating him. Best boyfriend I ever had. Respectful man and a very close family. He only went to school for a very short time, and could not read.
     
  13. Mrpedigree

    Mrpedigree Big Dog

    Buddy i agree with some of what you say...but forgive me if i stick up for a breed i have loved since childhood...espeacilally when i know their not all fat couch potatos...i have bred ,owned,and seen plenty of fit game BTs...my red bitch is what you call game...in fact i find it a nuisance in parks where there are other dogs...shes not scared to get involved !
    And EBTs aren't the only bull breed i have owned...back in the early 1990s i bred and owned APBTs along side EBTs...my family own property so when i was in my teens thats all i was in to....but back in the early 1990s that was when there was proper APBT bloodlines in the UK...now days what they call APBTs on the news etc don't look nothing like those dogs of the early 1990s ! for my money what i see people calling APBTs are more like crosses of lot of different bull breeds !
     
  14. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    unlikely your bull terrier is game. the only way you can tell if a dog is game is in the pit. if they can handle breaking legs, ripped to pieces for 2 hours of non stop fighting, and than pulled apart, and see if they will still try to meet to continue fighting is the only way to know if a dog is game. I dont know if my dog is game, i some what think he is/could be, I've seen him black out and not care, but hes never been able to take it to a game testing limit. He will take any pain to get at what he wants, runs into polls head first, runs strait into cactus, falls, gets hurt, and just keeps on going.

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    in fact i've never seen any physical pain stop him from something he wants. but hes not dog agressive. he wont tolerate any BS, but he doesnt go out of his way to bite a dog.
     
  15. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    i think hucklebutt has said it all really.....

    mrpedigree.....attacking a dog in a park,is not gameness......if it was then there are plenty game labradors,boxers even yorkshire terriers around......

    there have been no proven game english bull terriers around over the last 20 years.....a few are game in their owners minds but nowhere else unfortunately.....

    i have much admiration for any man who will stick loyally to their breed.....but theres some things that just cannot be defended,and defending a breed which is 95 % useless is in my opinion.....misguided loyalty......i say again,if these game athletic bull terriers exist,where are they......like you im a fan of the breed,but i am realistic enough to know they are at their poorest ever and need attention to get a good proportion of them back on track as useful working/sporting dogs.
     
  16. Mrpedigree

    Mrpedigree Big Dog

    Once again Its sounds to me like you like the sound of your own voice...anytime you post its to provoke a reaction...you say with BTs 95% are useless??...in your opinion why is this ? and compaired to what ? when i see theres even EBT videos on here doing bite work !...are they fat to??
    And what about this famous 2006 youtube video of an EBT that fought that bull to save its owner...was he fat and lazy to ??
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFwkc2qE35s"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]
    show me another video of another breed doing that to a bull on his own!
    You know for a minute there you started sounding like that you actually thought you knew what you was on about..now i am puzzled lol .but according to you all EBTs are fat lazy and useless....you still say you have admiration for the breed :no2:
    For the record i allways thought that any dog that would scratch(Fight) was game !??
     
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  17. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    i dont think 95% are fat and lazy by any means. I think even the exageratted bull terriers have potential to be athletic, driven and workers. As you can see, these bull terriers are not being intentionally bred for drive and athletic ability, its the owners that bring it out in them. So it must be in there!

    No if that was the case alot of dogs would be game, but a very very rare few would stay for hours, through broken legs, and still want to fight.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Luh4sTp1Gg"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]
     
  18. Bullful

    Bullful Little Dog

    Mr. Clueless You have no clue about Rufus' weight. One of the hardest things for a top winning Specials bull terrier to do is to cross over to the all breed ring. Breeder judges like them chunky (think Jenny Craig clients). All breed judges prefer an athletic looking dog and would comment if he put on 1 or 2 extra lbs. and trust me when I tell you that extra lb can be the difference between a group 1 placement and Best In Show. Rufus won Silverwood at 18 months of age, weighing 83 lbs. He won Westminster at 5 yrs 10 mos., weighing 73 lbs. which is the weight he currently maintains. Please share with us a few photos of your top winning family members and perhaps a little bit about all their accomplishments in and out of the show ring. Otherwise you just sound like a cantankerous old fool that likes blood sports. My boy proves himself as an ambassador to the breed, a TDIA Therapy Dog that visits hospitals,nursing homes and schools where he demonstrates the soundness of the BT's temperament. We do this in hopes of educating the public and fighting breed specific legislation. What have you and your dogs done to preserve the future of this breed?
     
  19. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    uh-oh!!! :lol: where are all these big breeders coming from?!? :D Welcome to PBC bullful. I assume you own this sundance kid? Give him a kissie for me, I love rufus's head as its not over done.
     
  20. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog


    you see some questions just answer themself.......can you not see the irony in that you vividly remember and have made a big deal out of a bull terrier gripping a bull......whats so fantastic about that and how does it show gameness.....maybe my 95 % estimate was a tad generous and its actually 99% based on this amazing and rare footage you have produced !!....yes the dog did a nice job protecting his owner and good on the little lad for showing protective instinct....but lets not confuse that with any kind of athletic or sporting event,until his owner got hit the dog was running away !!

    i think we are basically going round in circles as your meaning of " game " and mine greatly differ.....if you believe a dog that will chew a stick or grip a bull ( the vidoes you have posted ) makes for a game athletic bull terrier then i guess that in itself shows how standards have dropped over the years....as for provoking reactions....i speak the truth how i see it,if that offends or provocates you then im afraid thats your problem not mine,however i do know through experience that the truth usually does offend the show brigade as they are seldom happy with their ego,s being dented !

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    whoever rufus is i dont know.....but what i do know is that a bull terrier weighing 83 lbs at 18 months old IS grossly overweight.....i dont care if he was shown at westminster,crufts or in the queens back garden....obesity is obesity.....

    cantankerous eh....thats a new one.....like i said i speak the truth the way i see it,if you show folk dont like that then maybe you could justify the disgraceful mess you people have made of certain dog breeds which have pissed off cantankerous old fools like me so much......

    ive said before and i,ll say again.... kennel club shows are the most corrupt,cruel and cringeworthy organisation in the dog world........

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    my mistake sorry....rufus is the dog at the top of the page i get it now......

    well.....as the saying says " pictures often say a thousand words "....hence i wont bother saying anything as i dont mean to be rude and i know how the truth can offend.
     
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