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Blue Bull Terrier

Discussion in 'Bull Terrier' started by Country_bumpkin, Feb 19, 2015.

  1. Hi! I have a blue tri bull terrier & I was curious if anyone else has ever seen or heard of one? I'm familiar with the livers but she is the first one I've ever seen. I call her blue tri because she has red points on parts of her blue, so Id imagine if she had less white that's what she would appear as.
     

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    Here's another shot of Diamond.
     
  3. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    Hmm that's interesting for sure.
     
  4. Mollie's Nana

    Mollie's Nana Krypto Super Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    She is definitely a cutie! I'm kinda getting drawn to the Bull Terriers here lately... may have to check into the rescues in a few years and see about adopting one. =)
     
  5. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

  6. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    she is a very pretty girl! does she have papers?
    she looks a bit more like she is a mix.
     
  7. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    Obviously you know much more about the breed than I do, but I was thinking a mix or even an old school BT without the often exaggerated head.
     
  8. She's AKC registered, she definitely has more of an "old fashioned" head without the overly pronounced dome. I'm trying to find out more about her lineage as I haven't had her too long. I personally dont believe she is a cross, I've seen other bull terriers with heads less pronounced than her although I do prefer the ones like my other BTs have...I just couldn't pass her color up lol. It it intriguing.
     
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  9. When I got her, I did expect people's first reaction to be that she was a mix.
     
  10. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    There are a few reasons I suspect mix
    Obviously the color, her being blue is not a very common thing and especially the last 3 years I have seen a few BYB's breeding Blue Bull Terrier's passing htem of as pure bred then posting photo's of one of hte grandparents who was a bull terrier/ cattle dog cross or a am bully cross but forging hte AKC paper work and claiming pure blood.

    her markings, while can and some times do happen in BT's it is not common to be quite so splashy, while that is in no way saying its a mix it is just some thing I noticed.
    also her eyes are quite light/amber in color- again not a posative sign of not pure bred, but a possible sign.

    She wouldn't happen to a blue mother/ grandmother in her back ground that goes by the name "roxie" would she?
    or come from a breeder who boasts about being in the rescue world by chance?
     
  11. Well in most cases the light colored or "honey" colored eyes are a trait of a dog with blue pigmentation or any version of a diluted gene, so her eye color is more associated with that than her lineage. I have her pedigree so I'll have to look but there's not a dog of that name that I noticed. I have no doubt she probably came from a back yard breeding due to her head shape among other things not being like most like to see in the breed, myself included. Without her being DNA tested there's no way for anyone to know for sure aside from her AKC registration. Yes it can be forged & what not but for now that's what's I'm going on. She is not my first bull terrier, my 5th actually. The lady she came from had very little experience with the breed and wasn't aware of her coloration being odd or different. She bought a trio of BTs then decided to sell them, so I got Diamond.
     
  12. I'm actually still trying to find out more about her, like come into contact with her breeder, which was a gentleman but no one I can track down so far unfortunately...
     
  13. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    Either way, I am sure she is a wonderful girl and photos are always welcomed :)
     
  14. I'm curious to how bull terriers can come in black, but blue automatically screams mix? Blue is nothing but diluted black.. I'm not into bull terriers, so I can't answer the op's question on if the dog is pure or not.
     
  15. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    Because dilute dogs don't just magically or randomly spring from black (or liver) pigmented dogs, the parents have to carry the recessive genes to produce it, and most breeds don't. By your logic, every breed should come in dilute.
     
  16. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    This.

    While yes, it IS possible, I have seen several Bull Terrier breeders boasting that they are producing blues, and so far, each and every one of them are breeding from very obvious mixes, often Merle cattle dog/ Bt crosses or Ambully/BT crosses and passing them off as pure bred by lieing about who the sire is on the AKC paper work.

    It is becoming a "fad" because then the breeder can brag about having
    "Super Rare Bull Terrier!" and people are willing to pay big money for the "rare" bull terrier and all suspicions of the dog being "mixed" are thrown out the window when they whip out the AKC paper work.

    BUT, again, Mix or no, doesn't mean anything when it come's to personality and temperament, I have strong suspicions my own boys paper work is false due to the grandparents and thats fine, I never aid a cent for him and he is the most amazing dog ive ever had.
     
  17. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    They wouldn't be ACD crosses to bring in dilute, dilute doesn't exist in the breed (also, ACDs aren't merle, they're extreme white like a white BT + ticking).

    Damn near every breeder of every off-color bull breed I can think of has close ties to American Bully people. If you think it's bad in BTs, look at English Bulldogs and the rainbow of colors and patterns that didn't exist in the breed until recent years, "coincidentally" exploding in population during the so-called "exotic bully movement." :no2:
     
  18. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    I am not as familiar with the color genetics of other breeds.

    But i tend to follow some of these breeders of "exotic" colors and kind of keep tabs on some of them.

    one woman out in Nevada was boasting that she works for a rescue and has a blue and white female Bully who is AKC, she posted photo's of the parents and one was an obvious BT/cattle dog cross(all speckled and such)
    and she has been producing litters of blue pups off and on all akc registered that are usually blue/white or red smut.

    another breeder in California was also proud to show off his "exotic" bull terriers that were blue and liver pups- while also housing liver and blue Ambullies.
    his pups are also AKC registered and he has been producing a few litters a year that seem to get sold rather quickly because of it.

    last year I seen someone advertising a cattledog/BT mix as an AKC stud.
    a few months later I noticed he disappeared while several people where advertising litters of blue &white and speckled BT pups with full rights.

    its unfortunate how people will throw money at these people just to get a "Rare" dog

    But, who knows what else is mixed in with many of those dogs to produce the colors :no2:
     
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  19. Who were these people? I ask becaus I've been really searching for other blue BTs out of curiousity & I've literally come up with nothing. It looks like you know of several people claiming to have blue BTs, Id love to see more. I'm also interested in getting to the origin of them, whether mixed or pure. Also thanks, she is a sweet heart!
     
  20. I'm actually more interested in pics than the owners themselves. Maybe it's because they look so different than I'm used to seeing that I find them interesting. They're definitely beautiful.
     

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