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Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by copasetic1011, Sep 16, 2007.

  1. I was wondering if anyone here could enlighten me on how to tell what bloodline your dog is, I bought Bodie from a person out of the paper, and they didnt give me any history concerning his bloodline, so I am wondering if there are any signs that would give me a clue, Im sure there has to be something as far as ears, eyes, something that will give me an idea?
  2. bahamutt99

    bahamutt99 Stealth ninja

    The only true way to determine a dog's bloodline is to look at their pedigree. If the person who sold you the pup didn't give you registration papers, unfortunately, you'll never know for sure.
  3. fearlessknight

    fearlessknight Good Dog

    Not only that, but you will also never know if it is even a pure bred APBT.....
    Just make sure you have him neutered!
  4. What?

    Look, I know enough about pits to know if he is pure blooded, and I surley am not getting him fixed, I am not some fly by night owner who dosent know what he is about, I just had a simple question, just because you dont have papers dosent mean you dont have a pure blooded pit bull, come on, I dont need people telling me what to do with my dog! Jesus, I knew there were people on here who thought they knew everything, but please dont presume to know what I need to do with my dog. Are you fixed?:(
  5. I am not trying to be an ass, but if you dont have an answer, DONT ANSWER!!!!

    PNWPBR Good Dog

    Copasetic, you asked a question and it was answered. Truely what they said is right... without papers you will never know. With the bloodlines so diluted and BYB's running rampant, there are mutts passed off as Pit Bulls every day.

    Without papers and without having your dog health tested and certified, there is no real reason not to have your animal fixed and I believe that is what fearlessknight was saying. Why risk testicular and prostate cancer? Why add more to the already overflowing population? Spaying or neutering your pet is the most responsible thing you can do.

    Please remember that in this community everyone is entitled to their opinions. You asked for them, and you got them. All responses to you were respectful and not rude in any way so I do ask that yours are as well.

    Thank you! :grin:
  7. Look

    I asked about bloodlines, I know that there are ways to identify if your dog comes from this or that, what I didnt ask for is someone to tell me to fix my dog, I consisder my dog as one of my kids, I wouldnt "fix" my children, so I wouldnt even consiser fixing my dog, I asked a simple question, I dont think if I was a "respectable breeder" who had papers on his dog, I would have got that remark, do you? So lets not take my question to another place, just answer if you can, thats all Im asking, I have met a lot of good people on here, but I have also met a lot of" know it alls "aslo. Im not breeding my dog with any dog ,until I find the right one to keep him in the family, and I intend to keep him in my family for as long as possible!
  8. I know I am fixing to get flooded with all kinds of remarks about my thread, but I really dont care, if you have something to say, say it, cause I will!:lol:

    PNWPBR Good Dog

    Being a part of an online community means you must take the good from the bad. If you dont like someones response or remark, ignore it. You will always get opinions that you didnt ask for, and responses that you dont like... as is life.

    Now as far as breeding your dog, I would hope ANYONE on this forum would tell you the same in that it is an irresponsible thing to do.

    Regardless, what you take from peoples statements is up to you and you could have the whole world telling you not to breed your dog and you still would, or wouldnt. The decision is yours and yours alone.

    About the respectable breeder comment, if you were a respectable breeder you wouldnt have asked the question in the first place.... so no, you would not have gotten that remark. But there is more that goes into being a respectable or responsible breeder than just ensuring their litters have good homes..... hence why they are respected.

    Just take what you want from what people say, breathe deep before you reply, and remember that with any community.... we will all never think alike and thats what makes is so diverse! :grin:
  10. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    i think this says it all
  11. maryellen

    maryellen Good Dog

    please do not be snotty in your remarks. you asked for advise, and was given it politely. there is no way to tell your dogs bloodlines like Bahamutt stated without some sort of pedigree from who you got him from.

    and why would you breed a dog of unknown heritage? since you dont know his bloodline why would you risk breeding him not knowing his background?
  12. huskylove

    huskylove Guest

    What part of "no pedigree, no knowledge of bloodline" did you not understand?
  13. maryellen

    maryellen Good Dog

    please do not generalize dogs as children, as they are not. they are 4 legged canines not babies...

    unless of course you are talking about my Burlington Brown Brindle..

  14. tommyt

    tommyt Puppy

    Actually, there is no way to tell what lines your dog is from without papers. And even that doesn't make it 100% accurate all the time.

    No one is trying to disrespect you. If you didn't get the dog from a reputable kennel, you really have no idea what problems and traits lie within the dog's blood. The grandsire of your dog could have been a terrible man-biter with dysplastic hips. This trait could be passed on to the puppies and skip a generation or two. Therefore, your dog could be a great dog but because you don't know where it came from, there is a possibility that your dog can produce dogs that are not good representations of the breed. This is why people are against you breeding your dog. Without knowing the background of your dog, you have no idea what traits are going to show. Also, most backyard bred dogs are scatterbred. This makes the traits that show up in the dogs very inconsistent.
    Not to mention the hundreds of dogs with no known background, such as yours, that are already flooding the shelters.
  15. huskylove

    huskylove Guest

    LOL, ME, is that anything like a rare Massachusetts Red Nose :lol:?
  16. maryellen

    maryellen Good Dog

    hahhaa.. it sure is!!!!
  17. Wow, this keeps coming up. Copasetic, you're like the 3rd person in the last week stating that they want to breed their dog. But I'm not blaming you. My dog came from a byb, probably breeding for fighting dogs. When my bf got the dog, we didn't know anything about bybs or how bad the overpopulation problem is. I'm 29 yo & only learned a year ago about these kind of things. Now, I'll only ever get another dog or cat from a rescue or shelter. My point is, is that not everyone knows that bybs are bad or that there is an overpopulation problem. And while I don't think anyone responded too inappropriately in this thread, I've seen it happen lots of times (on other forums too) where someone just jumps all over someone wanting to breed their pet for the wrong reason. Nobody likes to hear "hey your being stupid, how can you do that!" Why not say instead, "hey, there are a lot of unwanted, deserving animals out there & breeding your pet can be harder than it seems, etc, etc." Then let the person draw their own conclusions. just sayin . . .
  18. Galadriel

    Galadriel Good Dog

    There really is no way to tell by physical appearance where your dog originated. There are some defining characteristics from certain lines, but they are not like The Osmands or the Jackson...you can't look at them and KNOW. There are millions of pit bulls, no way to really tell them apart by looks.
    Sorry, but I do want to chime in on the other "thing" that's been brought up.
    My dog has an extensive pedigree, both parents are purple ribbon winners, yadda yadda yadda. She's getting fixed next month. There are already plenty of dogs from her pedigree being bred if people want them, I'm not a "dog breeder" and have no desire to be. I don't need to add to the population of unwanted dogs. I don't need to help further the destruction of the breed's integrity. I don't need to turn a quick buck. (please note I'm not accusing you of ANY of these motivations, but they are common results of over breeding) and I want my girl to be 75% less likely to develop mammary and uteran cancer...same goes for male dogs and testicular and prostate cancer.
    And yes, as a matter of fact, I AM fixed =)
  19. chloesredboy

    chloesredboy Banned

    To Whom It May Concern

    There Is No Such Thing As A "Pure Bred Pit Bull"!!
  20. Look, I am a contraversial type of person, if you say something that strikes me as crazy, then I will say something crazy, Im not trying to delibertly pick a fight with someone, all Im saying is dont presume to know or judge me based on some belief about whether or not a person should breed their "back yard pits" because of yada yada yada, my dog is 3 months old, not 3 years, so its not even a ? but I love my dogs and want to keep their bloodline in my family for as long as possible, and I would think that people on here would understand that, even if I dont know what the bloodline is, and yeah my dog gets treated just like my kids, as i would hope all dogs in peoples family would! For all the good reasons you could give me for not breeding Bodie, I can give you one reason for breeding him that outweighs all others, he wont live as long as me, but his kids kids will.

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