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Bite Inhibition

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by Mollie's Nana, Jun 10, 2010.

  1. Tshea73

    Tshea73 Puppy

    Thx u for the advise


    Tshea73
     
  2. Ah! my Beastie just wont stop, i tried almost everything, if i yelp and walk away she either runs after me and gets my ankle or just doesn't bother and chews on the couch or shoes or anything else other than her toys she can find, if i tap her on the butt and say No she just barks at me and tries to nip my hand again, i dont want to try the claw move ceaser does cause i don't exactly know the technique to it and i dont feel its a great idea, she doesn' bite my Husband however and is WAY calmer around him even though I do most of the care taking of her :) any ideas and advice ? Also, its really hard getting her attention!
     
  3. EyECoN

    EyECoN Puppy

    Titan had completely stopped nipping until about a week ago when his teething got really serious. Now he's back to mouthing and biting during play.
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  4. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    Well so what does your husband do differently than you?

    When you walk away, you're supposed to ignore her. If you react to her nipping your ankles, she will react more. She's getting attention at this point. So have a baby gate near and use it to separate her into another room.

    You could try redirection too.

    She's still young and learning so find a single method and stick with it. Every person she comes into contact with must also do this.
     
  5. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    Square one. Start again from the beginning with the basics.
     
  6. EyECoN

    EyECoN Puppy


    Yep, that's what we're doing. I know he must be in pain, and I think some of it is due to the urge for relief, but I want to make sure it's gone.
     
  7. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    It's good that you're staying on top of it. :)

    What does he have to chew on?
     
  8. EyECoN

    EyECoN Puppy


    You mean besides me, my shoes, sheets, & furniture? ;)

    He has one big Kong rubber ball thing, actual Kong ball, Goughnut, several Nylabone toys both textured and not, several stuffingless(?) plush toys (he loves these), other less important (to him) toys.

    Oh, Ice.

    Soon he'll have Boogie's antlers. I WAS giving him frozen towels until he decided his sole purpose was to rip it to shreds and try to eat the strings.
     
  9. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    What you could try is a game of tug to teach impulse control and terms like "drop it" and to show when biting is appropriate and when it's not.

    My dog knows "easy" which we use for when he gets too mouthy during play. We use it while wrestling (he's 10 years old, not a puppy) and during tug play.
     
  10. EyECoN

    EyECoN Puppy


    Good idea. He knows drop and leave it.
     
  11. My husband will stands up , corners her and stares at her until she lays down and relaxes, most times she goes straight to her crate and naps after that's done to her. When I walk away and she nips, i do react, only because its sharp! will try that today. Thanks :)
     
  12. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog

    So he's intimidating and scaring a 4 month old puppy.

    What happens when the puppy turns into an adult dog and says enough is enough and tries to stand up for itself the only way dogs know how...by baring teeth, growling, lunging and perhaps biting (maybe at first an air snap or a corrective nip) - just a gesture that communicates "get away from me".

    What usually happens then is that people don't recognize that they contributed to this behavior developing, then they decide the dog is dangerous, human aggressive - so they come on this forum and ask for advice when the behavior is already established, well reinforced and out of hand and they get a good number of responses saying the dog is unstable and they need to euthanize it.

    The puppy isn't relaxing, it's shutting down; and it's not going to it's crate because it's calm now - it's likely seeking a safe place to hide and sleeping because it is exhausted from the fight/flight stress hormone dump.

    Here's a reference on shutting down vs. relaxing:
    Shut Down Dogs (Part 2) | eileenanddogseileenanddogs
    (Eileen and dogs is an awesome blog)

    Here is some info on stress and dogs (note under the "whole body reaction" that spacing out and falling alseep is an indicator).
    Do you know the most common symptoms of stress in dogs? Read our list, and relax! The Bark

    Personally at this stage, I think you would do better by teaching the pup what you want it to do instead of punishing/correcting what you don't want. It's only a baby - like a 1 year old toddler - it's going to take time, repetition, consistency - the pup has to learn, grow, mature (mentally and emotionally). If you consistently reinforce the behaviors you want to see and do not reinforce the negative behavior (distract, ignore, engage in a different behavior which can be reinforced, provide safe/quiet/alone time with a kong or a chew, teach the opposite/preferred behavior - drop it, leave it, gentle, settle down) you will eventually wind up with a reasonably well adjusted, well behaved adult dog.

    (Keep in mind, everything goes to shit in adolescence - one more developmental period you want to learn to handle gracefully. :grin:) You can google Jean Donaldson's Culture Clash free on "Scrbd" for some really good info on behavior and training.
     
  13. Jazzy thank you so much for the advise and the links, this is why I wouldn't correct her the same way as I didn't agree, although she really does get over excited, which is why I felt she would calm down. However, I will use the the baby gate as suggested earlier by _unoriginal. I have also tried giving her a chew toy instead, but she goes straight for my hands and arms again :) , i will keep trying, i will stick to the yelping, ignoring and walking away.
     
  14. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog

    Have you tried working on obedience with her when she gets like this - but making it fun and using treats/toys - but maybe first take her in the yard and let her run and play - get a little of that excessive energy out - you could start teaching fetch which involves take it, drop it and bring it. Obedience - whether it's sit, drop it or a trick takes mental energy and that also tires dogs out; but with her being a puppy she won't have a great attention span - so you have to do it in short doses.

    Just to put timelines in perspective - I enjoy teaching tricks. Right now I'm teaching a trick that involves opening the refrigerator. My dog has allot of experience in learning tricks. She can open a cupboard, she can open the door on her crate - both behaviors extremely similar to opening a refrigerator door. We have been working on opening the refrigerator door (just 5 minutes once or twice a day, sometimes skipping a day or two - so as not to over saturate her) for about 6 weeks and she is just now completing the behavior but not consistently - it will take more time for learning to strengthen and to allow for a consistent performance. Training really does take time, consistency and repetition and timely reinforcement of desired behavior. Enjoy your puppy - they grow up too soon!
     
  15. I have been teaching her recall which she is slowly getting still, as you said her attention span isnt the best and she gets distracted so quickly! She does know, sit, down which she caught on in the first 3 days I had her, I try to take her on walks to drain some of that energy, but she gets spooked easy ! so im also working on that i need to do more reading on positive reinforcement, shes a sucker for treats and sits even before i give her a command ! I really appropriate all the advice and would love to see pix of your girl doing her tricks! :)
     
  16. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog


    No kids = 154 dog videos :grin:

    https://www.youtube.com/user/Oraborus
     
  17. WOW!! loved all the videos :D if I were living in the US , I would hire you to teach me how to train my baby to do that! Beastie sort of got the hang of " Leave it" last night and she nipped at me pretty hard and I yelped and walked away and separated myself and ignored her for 5 mins, she hasn't bit me since, will keep trying and I also asked hubby to stop what he was doing. Jazzy thank you so much :) God Bless
     
  18. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog

    Thank you and I hope I did help in some small way.
     
  19. KiahJ

    KiahJ Puppy

    This is amazing! I have been scouring the internet trying to find some help with my little Titan's biting. He looks like a little gator when he's snapping that jaw at me and nothing I found on the web has helped thus far. He not an aggressive biter but he plays a little too rough. I need to teach him now that he can't bite me before he gets too big and really hurts me.
     
  20. Lucia

    Lucia Puppy

    When I rescued a 4 and a half week pit puppy I thought it would be easy. He came from my friend who is a vet and she tried to warn me but I fell in love with him the first time I held him-a tiny abused bag of bones. She was about to euthanize him and I just wanted to hold him to let him feel the warmth of human kindness before he left this world. He seemed unconscious but as I cuddled him tightly against my heart a tiny tail wagged. Long story short many weeks and medical treatment later I was in trouble. I know about bit inhibition but it wasn't getting any better. A friend has a Delta therapy dog and began to bring him over.This patient dog sorted the issue in no time in dog language. This a the first dog the pup socialised with and I attribute his wonderful temperament mainly to these positive experiences. At 14weeks he is a well mannered kind and loving pup. He shares his life with a calm and patient ambully who has clear and fair boundaries. She is def the boss! I'm not sure if you have Delta dogs where you are but this was a great experience for us for him to learn safely from another dog.
     

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