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Discussion in 'Bully Breeder Discussion' started by ATL King Titan, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. ATL King Titan

    ATL King Titan Little Dog

    I don't know anything about pedigrees or bloodlines...but what are these (Big Gemini Kennels)? They claim "XXL" but I didn't think that was an actual thing.

    BullyPedia|The American Bully Online Pedigree Database

    Cujo is 145 pounds...

    They have a dog on their site where they boast a 30 inch head...has to be Mastiff somewhere right?
  2. 444

    444 Big Dog Premium Member

  3. Bullydog75

    Bullydog75 Puppy

    I would think to get that size there would of had to be mastiff, but looking at the pedigree most of the dogs look like large pit bulls.
  4. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    Those dogs don't look anything like Pit Bulls, large ones or otherwise.
  5. ConMan

    ConMan <b><font color="green">Premium Member aka king_leo

    I actuallu do like that dog in the main picture he doesnt look to bad for an XXL whatever ya wanna call it lol. But yeah definitely not APBTs. The pedigree doesnt show large pit bulls it shows large Am. Bullies...and it doesnt go back very far from what I can see, like 3 generations? Hard to know what all is in those dogs.

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  6. ATL King Titan

    ATL King Titan Little Dog

    Oh I know "XL" is a thing...I have one. My point was the extra "X"...people always say there is no such thing as "XXL" or "XXXL" as some of these breeders promote.
  7. ConMan

    ConMan <b><font color="green">Premium Member aka king_leo

    Any extra Xs are added because the person breeding is a BYB idiot in it for the money and title not the dogs.

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  8. Bullydog75

    Bullydog75 Puppy

    What are you talking about it goes back well more then 3 , and yes there are some AKC dogs there are also many PR UKC APBT dogs.
  9. 444

    444 Big Dog Premium Member

    This ! BGK also refers to their dogs as Pit Bulls...

    Funny aside,I noticed on Bullypedia that they list Purple Ribbon as a title.
  10. ConMan

    ConMan <b><font color="green">Premium Member aka king_leo

    Thats why I said from what I can see when I click the link I can only see 3 or 4 generations. But if theres AKC Am Staffs, UKC "Pit Bulls" and obviously theres Am. Bully... then the dogs a mutt.

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  11. Bullydog75

    Bullydog75 Puppy

    I agree that they are not a pure 100 percent UKC APBT , but I do see a close resemblance in many of the dogs farther back in the pedigree just much larger. Just so we all know , and im saying this because I see it posted a lot , at one point UKC APBT and AKC AM staff were the same with some dogs being dual registered . One example is the dog from little rasclas . Lets be honest all domestic dogs at this point are mutts to some degree. They all came from mixing dogs together to achieve the breed that we know them as.
  12. 444

    444 Big Dog Premium Member

    From show Staffs to 100+ pound Mastiffy dogs in a generation or two.Not at all suspect.

    The argument that all dogs were mutts lacks substance,especially compared to the Bully.Most modern pure breeds don't have 5 different types or varying allowances for faults depending on type.
  13. Bullydog75

    Bullydog75 Puppy

    I agree having 5 types is a problem , but I don't see that in these dogs they are all an xl type with some smaller types further back. I have never suspected these dogs to be 100 percent pure , but they do have a lot of APBT dogs in their pedigree.
  14. apbt luver

    apbt luver Puppy

    there are many members in BGK. careful who you deal with, andre is a well known scammer. i haven't heard much bad from the other members though.

    as far as xls, they are american bullies but all xl owners know they are bandogs. They know that they have massifs behind them, it's not secret and very few are in denial about that. he calls them pitbulls on the website, but on the xl boards he makes it known that they are not apbts. he will even say that they are not apbts, they are xl american bullies or bandogs.

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