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Beautiful piece of muscle up for adoption in NJ !!!

Discussion in 'Rescue & Adoption' started by davidfitness83, Apr 30, 2011.

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  1. DutchGame

    DutchGame Little Dog

    Don't get me wrong it's a great looking dog, but so are my brother's Amstaffs. The dog with the toothpick legs will run circles around that cur all f#cking day, since it's an Apbt and the dog you posted is not. No way in hell you will ever have a dog looking like a ripped adba Apbt by underfeeding it and walking it 5 hours a day. Just shows what an amateur you are. Get yourself a poodle.
     
  2. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    Cute dog, but from a show point of view he is a conformational train wreck ...David your the one who posted the dog up making comments like "strong front and very nice rear" The poor thing has a very shallow chest and is too high in the back end, has a sway back and is throwing elbows.

    There is no such thing as "traditional apb" It is either an American Pit Bull Terrier or it's not....Dog looks to have some American Bully in it to me.

    I do hope he finds a good pet home :)
     
  3. kamikaze

    kamikaze Good Dog

    very cute lookin Bully! i bet he's gna be a lover in no time!!
     
  4. Blau

    Blau Big Dog

    Mass =/= muscle. I don't see ANY muscle showing on the dog you posted. He's a cute dog, but he is not muscular at all.
    This is a muscular dog-
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    Also, just because you can see ribs doesn't mean a dog is thin... hip bones maybe, but you SHOULD be able to see a few ribs on a well conditioned dog.
     
  5. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    What's a "traditional APBT"?

    I'm not sure if you're referring to the dog that I posted, but there are no ribs or hip bones showing at all on her. I really don't see any muscle at all on the dog you posted.. cute dog, and it shouldn't matter if he has muscle or not, but since you keep claiming he's "full of muscle", I just have to disagree.

    Piper is an Am. Bully type dog (parents were both easily 70lbs., just using her as an example since you said the dog you posted is most likely from heavier type dogs), and I would consider her somewhat "bulky", since she's basically.. a brick (that's what we call her anyway). She's by no means "ripped", but you can see her muscle here:

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    No toothpick legs or ribs showing there!
     
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  6. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog


    Eeeeek. Ya... he's cute as hell but has HORRIBLE structure. That can be an important factor to consider even in a rescue dog as many people looking to adopt want a running a partner or a dog that can keep up to a active lifestyle. Structure isn't just about looks. It's related to performance/function. I could see this dog being at risk for luxating patellas or an acl tear which is another important thing to consider when adopting..... the price of surgery! :eek:
     
  7. omgrobyn

    omgrobyn GRCH Dog

    ^^^This.

    Yes, he's quite cute, and with a little work he could look fabulous, but (I know at least for me if I were adopting him) his structure should be taken into consideration (as Zoe said, possible future vet bills for surgeries and what not). I'd be pretty pissed if I shelled out a couple hundred for a rescue dog, just to pay several grand to repair an acl tear or any of that jazz a year later, or put him to sleep because I can't afford that.
     
  8. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    some folks will never get it....apbts arent a "look" they are generations of selective breeding, good dogs to good dogs....and even then you wont necessarily get one with the right mindset. what they got upstairs counts a hell of alot more and that aint gonna show up on a fucking picture.
    ive seen what dogs that some of you would call a "trainwreck", yet itd make you go home and put down your whole yard. real bulldogs with real heart, not ribbon winners
     
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  9. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    Geeze I can't believe how this turned some kind of debate/competition.
    Poor guy, he looks good for a badly-bred dog that's had nothing done to help his shape.
     
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  10. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    my point exactly BM, you just called that dog a badly bred animal, yet you know nothing about him.
     
  11. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    I'm assuming due what I do know about the dog, it has poor structure and it's a shelter dog from NY.
     
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  12. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    i know i know, and i personally would never own a shelter dog. i just thought folks commenting on structure was humorous.
    thatd be waaaaay down the list considering the dogs current status
     
  13. Boogieman

    Boogieman Good Dog Premium Member

    Honestly, your ignorance of a truly conditioned or very nice genetic make up is showing. If you think the dog in that pic is starved you are sadly mistaken. It's obvious you don't know shit from shineola about conditioning animals, or if an animal IS actually conditioned or just skinny.

    That dog is a sway backed mess. It may be nice, which is great, it may make somebody a good pet, which is great, but that doesn't change the fact that your babbling out your ass of things you don't know squat about. :no2:
     
  14. BILLBKLYN

    BILLBKLYN Good Dog

    Not for nothing but he said that the picture doesn't do him justice and we cannot assess how the dog is really built based on 1 photograph. We would have to see the dog in person to determine this. The dog looks nice and I hope he finds a good home. I don't mean structure-wise when I say nice I mean he would make a fine companion for a family looking for just a pet, nothing more.
     
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  15. ganja

    ganja Good Dog

    I see a thick dog with a larger build structure.. nothing I call muscular..
    it's like all those amstaff and bully owners with overweight dogs that almost have no tuck claiming their dogs to have great muscles.. nope, it's just mass, fat and wide structure..

    however, you are the one coming on talking about how beautiful he is, even calling him a piece of muscle and going as far as to say he has a nice front and rear, which obviously from the pics you showed isn't the case

    then you go on to talk about our "skinny" dogs?
    I really thought you knew better.
     
  16. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    Ya... Deeohgee has REALLY bad back end structure and had ACL surgery with her last owner on one leg. The rescue wanted me to keep her as they would have euthed her otherwise but I was worried about an emergency surgery especially with two senior dogs here so they offered to cover her surgery if it ever happened in the second leg. Gaud.... I'd feel horrible if our vet fund was drained due to the geezers and my only option was to euth her. :o
     
  17. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    I think this turned into a debate because OP didn't post this as a "look at this cute dog for adoption!", but instead went on to say how muscular (even titled the thread as such) the dog is, how it has nice structure, etc., which I personally am not seeing.

    It'd be like me saying that this dog, another shelter dog, was super muscular and had a nice structure..

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    She's an adorable dog (we called her an elf LOL) with a great personality, and got adopted into a great home, but she was a conformational nightmare with that long back, among other things.
     
  18. luckilylovinlyfe

    luckilylovinlyfe Good Dog

    Looks like a doxie x bully lol
     
  19. davidfitness83

    davidfitness83 Good Dog

    The point of the the title was to get attention and the dog got it lol You cant judge a dog from a picture just like you can't judge a dog simply by a good stack. This dog is far from a workin animal and nobody claimed this dog has any of the tools an Apbt has. In fact I was merely comparing that even in his state he posses a lot of muscle mass opossed to a lot of dogs in the show ring that looked starved. Everyone knows not every dog out there is conditioned and fed properly. Some folks starve the dog and run the shut out of it to make the torso tight or maybe too tight. Not every apbt is conditioned like this, I don't need a history lesson on how the APBT would run circles around the dog because thy is a given lol I think if someone is looking for a pet this could be a great dog although I'm not sure what kind of temperament test he went through.


    By the way any dog can be starved to show the ribs and naturally this smaller torso would give the impression of a muscular illusion since the limbs will appear bigger. Now if you have a dog that is being fed enough and worked enough to have nice muscle while retaining a small torso that's a awesome. But I see a lot of rescue abandoned dogs that remind me a lot of these show dogs. You starve a dog, rid it of water and fat and you will see all the muscles mother nature created to put the dog together.

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    Don't mean to be a dick but your dog looks like it was deflated and lacks any muscle definition. For all the work or whatever it is you do with the dog it doesn't look any different than any other dog running. Also, the dog i posted is not even moving or flexing lol i can take my chuhuahua pulling on his lead making him look "fit" .Martys lil bit is all muscle and no toothpick look :) find that dog and that is what I call a dog in shape. Now tell me if your pet above resembles anything near martys dog ok ?
     
  20. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    Hey, I'm not the one that posted this in my OP:
    You CAN judge a dog from a picture, and you CAN judge a dog from a stack.. how else do you think conformation judges judge dogs?? They also judge movement of course. Personally, I don't see much "nice" about the conformation of that dog. And as I said, it doesn't matter, but you keep saying how nice he looks. Nice as in cute dog, yes. And you keep talking about muscle mass.. I see NO muscles on him! Again, not that it matters, but since you keep referring to it, I have to comment on it,

    I have no idea what you're talking about when you're referring to starving a dog to achieve muscle. Not sure how that works.. when I see a starved dog, I see a starved dog, not a dog that looks like it has a ton of muscles because it's starved. When animals are starved, that's one of the first things that goes, since their bodies "eat" the muscles.

    Thanks for your lovely compliments of Piper, seeing as she isn't conditioned whatsoever, I think she looks pretty darn good for a pet dog. I never said I did any "work" with her, just was showing you a picture of a "heavier built" dog that DOES have some muscle (whether you want to admit it or not, she's been seen by quite a few WP people, all of whom said "Wow, she is solid as a rock!" referring to muscle), since you mentioned the dog you posted must be from "heavier type" dogs. She's obviously not pink_princess's Cleo, but she's not a big blue Hippo either. She's a mutt though, not like I'm going to show her in conformation, so it really doesn't matter. Was just using her picture as an example.

    Not sure why I'm arguing with you though, you always seem to have the "holier than thou" attitude on your posts on here. So, you are right, everyone else commenting about the dog is wrong. Happy? :D

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    Who? The second dog I posted LOL? She was so loooong!
     
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