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NY: Bans cat mills, break sticks and "fighting pits"...

Discussion in 'Dog Ordinances & Laws' started by Vicki, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Administrator

    Bans cat mills, break sticks and "fighting pits"...

    NY's new laws clamp down on dog fights

    Published: July 19, 2012 3:05 PM
    By The Associated Press

    New York's newest laws pave the way to require New York City children to start their education at 5 years old, name a bridge for Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, and prohibit the use "cat mills," ''breaking sticks" and "fighting pits" in animal fighting.

    The bills were passed by the Legislature this session and signed into law this week by Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

    They include a ban on the manufacturing, sale and possession of some grisly items used in the illegal trade of fighting by dogs and other animals usually for gambling. The items include a rotating "cat mill" in which a cat is held just out of reach of a running dog.

    NY's new laws clamp down on dog fights
  2. DancesWithCurs

    DancesWithCurs Good Dog

    NY, leading the charge on stupid laws yet again
  3. destinoscelgo

    destinoscelgo Good Dog

  4. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    Smart people don't own break sticks because of BS laws like this and misinformation spread by HSUS and PETA. They have a nice supply of nylon spikes, though. :)
  5. ReneeMcDougal

    ReneeMcDougal Good Dog

    ok...i understand not being legal to tie a cat as bait for a dog to run.....but...everything else is BS
  6. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

  7. simms

    simms Good Dog

    Some dogs will run for a jug,ball. Any live animal that is used to entice, is placed in a wire cage. The point is not that ppl specifiily use cats, its the function of the tool.

    C'mon ppl, get down to the meat of this bullshit! the petbull menatility will be the demise of the American pitbull terrier. These ppl are only willing to make a deal if it means they can continuely shape and mold the type of dog they think you should have.
  8. ReneeMcDougal

    ReneeMcDougal Good Dog

    I see no harm in using things to make a dog run..I dunno about a live animal though, a wire cage doesn't stop a determined dog and the animal can still get injured. As far as mills go..im all for them.
  9. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    But the dog doesn't catch the cat. They are securely separated. No matter how fast or slow the mill is going the cat (or other animal) is always the same distance away from the dog. There is literally no chance of the dog getting to the animal's cage. Unless you unhook it from the mill after the workout and turn it loose on the cage, lol, which is counterproductive.
  10. DancesWithCurs

    DancesWithCurs Good Dog

    There's no way for them to actually get to the animal in a jenny. Looks like this:

  11. simms

    simms Good Dog

    It is the fear of the unkown and not having all the facts to form a clear and decisive oppinion on this, is how this law was passed. ppl act on what they feel is right or wrong- I've been guilty of this myself lol.

    So I try not feel so much LOLOLOL
  12. ReneeMcDougal

    ReneeMcDougal Good Dog

    Oh ..that is all it is? That is not an issue either...my mental image was a carpet mill with a caged cat in front of it....I was worried for the safety of it.
  13. gh32

    gh32 Little Dog

    I see no harm in a caged cat,it isn't like the dog is going to get it.Actually coonhunters use caged coons all the time to get the dogs to go after it and develop an interest in the coon,I honestly don't see why a catmill should be illegal.
  14. Tahlz

    Tahlz Good Dog

    I have no problem with catmills being banned. I don't really agree with putting a cat in a cage, there is no need for it, the dogs can be exercised in many different ways.
  15. DancesWithCurs

    DancesWithCurs Good Dog

    See the problem here is people automatically assume cat mill= we're putting an actual cat in there when the truth is people no longer do... people that don't have issues, anyway. Being spun around like that would probably be pretty stressful for a cat. Usually it's rawhide or a dog's favorite toy or an animal's hide. Pretty much whatever makes them excited about running
  16. simms

    simms Good Dog

    This poster is the example of that type of thinking. They go with what they "Feel" instead of educating them selves on these issues.
  17. simms

    simms Good Dog

    I personaly don't have an issue with it either. This is just part of the process of elimnating possesion and use of these tools. All in an effort to reshape and mold the "ideal" shell of the American pitbull terrier.
    The public is buying into it due to the way it is presented. This is a "feel good" mentality that this breed and animal owners are up against. Clearly these laws being passed don't have to make sense.
  18. Tahlz

    Tahlz Good Dog

    I probably should have been more specific with what I posted. I have no problem with catmills if no cat is used. It you use something else, I have no problem with that.

    I don't agree with using a cat at all for those who think it's alright because it must be quite stressful for the animal. It's cruel. Why use a cat when you can use many other things. I find it quite pathetic to use a cat when you can use other things AND there are plenty more exercise you can do with your dog, you DON'T NEED a catmill (with a cat in it).
  19. simms

    simms Good Dog

    o_O meh.......
  20. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    I prefer the term Jenny because people hardly use live bait anymore... but I recall a story I think from Bert Clouse?? (maybe not) about a cat that loved going in the cat mill... thought it was a roller coaster I guess... lol

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