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Background check for pit-bull owners

Discussion in 'Dog Ordinances & Laws' started by fearlessknight, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. ad_shannon

    ad_shannon Good Dog

    Agree 100%
     
  2. fearlessknight

    fearlessknight Good Dog

    I do not agree with repetitive offenses, I mean....so a guy is in for forgery 3 times...means he can't have a dog? signing someone else's name? What does that have to do with owning and taking care of a dog...? Nothing, IMO...and, IMO, it means nothing as well......

    I can see where, like I was saying earlier, a history of violence.... because if a person can be violent to other people, whats to say they will not be to dogs...or if it is their nature to abuse a child or a wife or an elderly, then why would they not touch a dog? They are violent....I am not talking ONE violent crime....but a history of violence.
     
  3. Rai_77

    Rai_77 Good Dog

    I would think that the background checks for pet ownership would work like the ones that they run for jobs.

    A lot of convictions for things that won't affect your job performance are overlooked, or they just don't care.

    For example, if you have a DUI and are applying to be a bus driver, you will probably automatically not get the job. However, if you have a DUI and you are applying to be a house painter, it's not such a clear make or break type of deal.
     
  4. PSYKOTIK8

    PSYKOTIK8 Puppy

    i agree to a point. i make about 1800$ amonth. and have about 1500$ in bills. my dogs got sick with giardia, and then something happened to my boys foot needing surgery. spent about 1400$ at the vet in one month. i took my dogs to the vet fixed them up then worried about my rent. maybe only a small percentage of dog owners think this way, but my dogs are like my kids i make sure they have everything they need and if it means me not being able to get somethin extra that month so be it. im not a dog owner, but a dog parent. also granted my landlord was pretty cool about it when i explained the situation however id do the same thing again anytime.,

    back to this hypothetical thing about this being good....

    for kids they have child protective services. howabout animal protective services. they do a mild background check, for animal abuse(depending on the charge and situation causing the charge) and they check out the "living conditions" of where the animal is to be living. if the living conditions are "up to par" then the person can have an animal.

    i say animal not dog because i have seen some vicious cats and other animals that have more violent and deadly demeanors than that of dogs.


    just another thought and twist.
     
  5. Rai_77

    Rai_77 Good Dog

    Well, they already have that. It's called Animal Control. And just like CPS (Child Protective Services) they are underfunded, overstaffed, and very often go after innocent people while the truly heinous are left to continue their abuses.

    BTW...CPS only checks on kids if a report is made. They don't background check all parents for prior abuse.
     
  6. PSYKOTIK8

    PSYKOTIK8 Puppy


    i understand this but when one is to adopt a kid, a thorough investigation is done maybe not by cps but a social worker. personaly i wouldnt mind paying an extra 50-75$ when adopting an animal knowing that money is going towards the protection of the dogs. while it would suck for me to have to pay it because i know i have great living conditions for an animal and i would take care of it, knowing that its for everyone and hopefully, it may prevent some from getting animals they cant take care of or want for the wrong reasons.

    i know its not going to stop people from getting animals from bybs but it may help.

    once again my 0.02c on a hypothetical theory
     
  7. Mark-60

    Mark-60 Little Dog

    What he said, For teh WIN!!!


    -Mark.
     
  8. tat2stuff

    tat2stuff Good Dog

    Well If I was a convicted felon :rolleyes: and I wanted a dog I could turn into a "weapon" , a pit bull would be far from my first choice. I would apt for a GSD, Rotti, Doberman, Cane Corso, etc. , a dog that had it in it's nature already so to speak.

    Now, I do agree to some point on a background check prior to owning these dogs. Not a criminal background, but a personal background. I think potential owners should demonstrate a clear knowledge of the breeds history and understand the special requirements associated with issues like DA. I think they should have to demonstrate financial ability to care for the dogs, a proper containment setup( fenced yard, proper chain setup or kennel, etc.)
    I don't know how this would ever work though, when you can buy a pit bull pup from the back of Joe Dirts pick up in any Wallmart parking lot though. .. . :no2:
     
  9. Rai_77

    Rai_77 Good Dog

    That's only for adoptions that go through the state though. And it does nothing for people that are having their children biologically, and those that do private adoptions. Sorry, I'm just not getting your analogy at all.

    They already do checks when you adopt a dog from a reputable rescue and/or shelter.
     
  10. Kimmy

    Kimmy Puppy

    people known for violence will have a desire for there dog to be violent as well..anyone who is known for this tendency should not be allowed to own animals period..the animal will eventually pick up those same traits ..it is the natural course of things..all crimes do not include violence therefore a criminal history would not be the background check..they need more of a mental health/criminal history

    I used to have a chow and a rott..they were the best dogs i ever had..someone murdered them in my backyard with antifreeze..neither of theese dogs ever ever bit anyone..missy my rott would sit down on her own to make herself smaller for little kids to pet her..my vet told me whatever i was doing with the dogs to keep it up..and by the way i am a convicted felon (18 years ago).and that was the time frame that i had those dogs too..
     
  11. ColbyDogs

    ColbyDogs Big Dog

    That is kind of a general braod statement, I do not agree with that at all.

    I know I have a violent streak in me and not one of my dogs is violent.( unless DA is considered violence ) Now if you said people who are physically abusive then I would agree, there is a difference between violence and abuse.
     
  12. Cynthia

    Cynthia Good Dog

    I have seen people with money chose not to do anything for their pet. So even if they have the money some ppl will not "waste" it on a dog. At work a dog needed surgery for pyometra. The owner said well it is just a dog. He did not want to waste the money on the dog. He was driving an Jag. And he was a lawyer. So just because you have money does not make you a better owner. And also just because you live check to check does not make you a bad owner. Just a thought.
     
  13. Cynthia

    Cynthia Good Dog

    But do you really think the ones that want a dog to use it as a weapon will go to the people that do the background checks. If the government can not regulate guns or drugs what makes you think they can do this. Believe me if they want it they will find a way.
     
  14. ColbyDogs

    ColbyDogs Big Dog

    It appears you might not have read all of that post

    I know money doesn't make one a better owner but it does allow one to give better care for thier pets if they accually love thier dogs. We have only one animal hospitol in my area that is open 24 hours with emergency help on staff. If you do not have money up front ( cash or credit card ) then they will not treat your pet. Many people who's dogs have been hit by car have had to put thier dog down because of that.

    As I mentinoed in that post you replied to , having dog knowledge and being financially stable sets a person up to be a better dog owner. You can love dogs all you want but if you get bounced from your Apt cause you can't pay the rent then you and your dog will be homeless, often times the human finds a place to live but all to often the dog sooner or later ends up down at the shelter. this is something that I see all the time down at the city pound that my sister works at.

    I am not saying poor people suck, just IMHO thier pets are at a disadvantage due to limited funds that thier owner has.
     
  15. Chiapit

    Chiapit Big Dog

    A background check won't keep anyone from having a dog...if they wanted one bad enough they'd just steal yours..
     
  16. Mark-60

    Mark-60 Little Dog

    IMO,

    I think someone convicted of forgery or anything else 3 times, that shows a huge problem with judgement, and I would think a big character flaw. Not the best person for giving trust and responsibility too.

    -Mark.
     
  17. Mark-60

    Mark-60 Little Dog

    They can try.

    I am my families protector. That family now includes a dog.


    -Mark.
     
  18. Cynthia

    Cynthia Good Dog

    If I interpreted wrong I apologize. And I know where you are comming from. It may set you up and have more options. However I am speaking on what I have dealt with personally. And I agree to a point. You you can not provide the basic needs food, vaccines, heartworm prevention, flea prevention then you do not need a pet. And even with all the options that someone has because of the money the outcome may still be the same the dog ends up dead or in a shelter.

    If I did not work in Vet Med I would not have all the dogs I have now. I am lucky if something happens in the middle of the night I can call my boss and she can take care of it for me.

    Also a thought if a person put aside a set amount monthly in a "just in case" fund that adds up. And if an emergency comes up. You have the funds.
     
  19. Kimmy

    Kimmy Puppy

    colby i stand corrected i do know people who have bad tempers and can be easily pushed to violence but are not in their hearts mean people..knowing the person and readon for violence does make a difference and abuse would have been a better word
     
  20. ColbyDogs

    ColbyDogs Big Dog

    I hate to use this as an example cause this was just posted by a new member but this makes my point.
    I feel for the dog and the owner, naturally I hope all turns out well, and hoenestly I mean no disrespect but this is the exact reason why I said what I did and stick to my opinion.
     

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