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Background check for pit-bull owners

Discussion in 'Dog Ordinances & Laws' started by fearlessknight, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. fearlessknight

    fearlessknight Good Dog

    Contrary to popular belief, pit bulls are not inherently aggressive, but they are stubborn, eager to please, muscular and indifferent to pain, perfect characteristics for fighting.

    It's sad to say, but pit-bull fighting is found in lower-income urban and rural neighborhoods, where unfortunately education may not be a priority, partially due to poorly funded schooling. And the inability of adults and law enforcement to monitor behaviors results in young men and woman engaging in ignorant activities like graffiti, gang relations and dog fighting. In these neighborhoods is where this horrific "sport" takes place, and this is where you'll hear horror stories of a pit bull attacking a stranger or a young child. It's rare or nonexistent to hear of a pit bull attacking a neighbor in a higher-income suburban neighborhood, or one day snapping and attacking a small child in a loving home.

    Therefore, instead of giving pit bulls to experienced dog owners, as Eleanor Brembs wrote in a July 14 letter, pit bulls must only be given to responsible owners. When looking to adopt a pit bull, a more stringent background check should ensue, references should be checked as well as police records, and fingerprints should be taken. Just as if purchasing a gun, a pit bull can be trained to become a weapon, and therefore if you want to purchase this potential weapon, you must have a clean record and be able to prove that you're responsible enough to handle this powerful and loving dog.

    Kristen Pottberg

    http://lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080720/OPINION/807200320/-1/SPORTS
     
  2. ad_shannon

    ad_shannon Good Dog

    Amazingly overboard if you ask me. Any dog, given the time and effort can be trained to use as a weapon. Although knowing who the dog goes to so they can go to a forever home is not a bad idea
     
  3. Rai_77

    Rai_77 Good Dog

    How about background checks for ANY breed of dog? I'm not opposed to the idea, I've got nothing to hide, and many of those that do, shouldn't have pets, period.
     
  4. PSYKOTIK8

    PSYKOTIK8 Puppy

    i agree..

    i believe i read on this forum that more dog/human attacks that are reported come from cockerspaniels. i like the idea of any dog going to a responsible owner however like shannon said and dog can be trained to do anything, not just pits.
     
  5. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    I agree with this:)
     
  6. Miakoda

    Miakoda GRCH Dog

    Just throwing a monkeywrench into the situation:

    My oldest brother has a felony conviction for drug charges and 1 for assault. He was stupid when he was younger and he paid the price. But most of all, he learned his lesson and grew up.

    But should he not be allowed to own these dogs based on his record? Who's to say he should and should not? He's got several dogs from me (more than 10) and he's a great owner and loves the breed and each individual dog he owns. I'd rather him own these dogs than some ignorant and naive goody-two-shoes who thinks it's "all in how you raise them."
     
  7. fearlessknight

    fearlessknight Good Dog

    Exactly why it is not a good idea....just the same anti tethering is hurting the good people, REQUIRING THIS will also hurt the good people.

    I believe that anyone who has a HISTORY (meaning consistently) of VIOLENCE (and even that is not always the case) or animal abuse should not be allowed to own an animal of any kind.
     
  8. Thomas

    Thomas Little Dog

    Dear Government of The United States of America,

    Please leave me alone...

    Sincerely,
    A Law Abiding Citizen
     
  9. ad_shannon

    ad_shannon Good Dog

    When we start deciding who can own animals based on nothing to do with their former treatment of animals we cross a line from being caring people to being judgmental
     
  10. megschristina

    megschristina Moderator

    Those were my thoughts, I know several former criminals, who are good dog owners, and have moved on. I mean if you have animal cruelty on your record, you shouldn't get to have animals, then again, each case is different, it could have been someone shot the neighbors dog, cuz it came after their kid, and got slapped with animal cruelty, so I guess it is a bad idea all around, each case must be treated individually.
     
  11. Thomas

    Thomas Little Dog

    So we have pretty much established it is a bad idea all around...

    but just for giggles, LET'S PRETEND IT IS A GOOD IDEA...
    Let's pretend all shelters, rescues, and reputable breeders started doing background checks.

    How many BYBs are going to be doing background checks on potential owners?

    Bottom line: Background checks are not terribly effective. Just like guns, this would keep felons from acquiring pit bulls from shelters, rescues, and other law abiding breeders.

    It would NOT, however, keep the same felon from buying a pup from a BYB down the street.
     
  12. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    Mia: you have me thinking now. I retract my post.

    I think this should be for repeat offenders and animal abusers and the like. If a person did something stupid and has learned their lesson, it should not apply to them.
     
  13. ColbyDogs

    ColbyDogs Big Dog

    As normal...Spot on girl.

    I agree with you 100% on that. Being a convicted felon myself I would be apposed to such a law and would fight that tooth and nail. I know that I am a great owner ( pat my own back ) and I take great care of my dogs and having a troubled past has nothing to do with me as a person today and how I rasie my dogs.

    I honestly would much rather the dogs go to people who are experienced than some clueless do gooder who has zero clue about dogs in general nevermind no knowledge of the breed. That is just an accident waiting to happen.

    Money doesn't make you a better owner however money does allow you to take better finacial care of your dogs ( that part I agree with ) but that doesn't mean that you are automatically a candidate to own this breed. Just go visit any shelter and you will see plenty of dogs that once were owned by soccor moms.

    Here come the boo's

    I do not think that poor people are the greatest owner either, even if they are the greatest pet owner with tons of knowledge finacially they are far less likely to be able to care for the dogs the way they often need be cared for. If you can barely pay your rent then you probably cannot flop down $1000 bucks for an emergency surgery either. this is not a one sided commitment and if you cannot care for your dog financially then maybe one should hold off on having a dog til they can.

    For me its the middle of the road, one needs to have more than basic dog knowledge and also one should be finacially stable. To me that is a perfect combination of a good pet owner.
     
  14. LittleMissE

    LittleMissE Little Dog

    Look I think that there should be a background check for all breeds. I am not saying if you have done something when you were 18 and now you are 30 and served your time and cleaned up your life that you shouldn't be able to own the breed b/c you have served your time and have grown up. But if you are a repeated offender of drugs(selling or using) or some anger offensive over and over again you should get a dog b/c that person IMO is more likely to use a dog for the wrong thing. And there should be a 1 stike deal... If you go to jail or get in trouble for abuse of animals or fighting an animal that you should never be able to own any animal ever again.
     
  15. ad_shannon

    ad_shannon Good Dog


    I can get on board with that......But what sort of "repeat offenders" are we talking about here?

    I mean if your a pedophile, although it is disgusting, it has nothing to do with dogs....see where I am going with this?

    Who decides what repeat offenses are ones that disqualify you from having a dog?
     
  16. LittleMissE

    LittleMissE Little Dog

    IMHO repeated offensives period. With a one strike you are out if you do something animal abuse related.
     
  17. ad_shannon

    ad_shannon Good Dog

    While I agree with you, there are programs that offer payment plans, I know that my vet allows it. No, right now I dont have $1000.00 to plop down for a surgery right now, but not a lot of people do in todays economy *tips hat to Bush*.

    However, my dog is well cared for. He eats the dog food that works for him, he is fully vaccinated and recieves his heart gaurd every month, he gets an hour long walk every night, and gets fish oils for his coat every day as well. He is happy, healthy and loved which is more than I can say for some rich owners who use their animals for decoration or other things.....Enter Vick......
     
  18. ad_shannon

    ad_shannon Good Dog

    Animal abuse yes, deciding what people get dogs and who dont based on offenses that have NOTHING to do with animals at all........hello puppy nazi *shrugs*
     
  19. LittleMissE

    LittleMissE Little Dog

    I mean there is a 3 strikes you are out in life(go to jail) 3 criminal offensives of any and you shouldn't be able to have a dog...at least not a "dangerous breed".

    IMHO I think that it would help the look of many "dangerous breeds".

    That is my take on it. Nobody has to agree with it. And I know out there that there are some really good have started there lives over completely ex-criminals that could raise a dog but I don't think that should be an easy thing for them to get.

    There could be a test for these repeated offenders that cleaned up there live but it shouldn't just be given to them.
     
  20. ColbyDogs

    ColbyDogs Big Dog

    I know I don't agree, ones criminal actions have nothing to do with thier ability to own and care for a dog especially if what ever crimes have / were committed were not animal related. The only effect that has on the ownership of a dog is if the owner who is the criminal has to go away for a stretch of time thus sending the dog to the pound. Other than that it has no relevance to ones ability to care for a dog and should not ban them from ownership.
     

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