Are You A Backyard Breeder?

[TannerG]

im gonna worry about myself and my family before i worry about some starving children...sheeeeit im starving

 

[Team Peanut]

If more people would have a dog instead of children, then we would be better off

completely agree.

 

[adjecyca]

So i'm a little late to the drama, but i'd just like to say I would GLADLY get fixed, too bad no doctor would do it to me at my age lol...

 

[Ali132]

I'm not for back yard breeder so to say. But what about the reputable breeders that sell the dogs for a thousand bucks or even more. Not every dog that they breed is up to standard. And you can't say they aren't in it or the money as well. Just saying.

Do you know how much showing a dog multiple times a year, raising a litter, health testing the bitch and sire, and then paying for all the puppies shots etc cost?
Didnt think so, why dont you go add that shit up the come back and say that breeders are in it for the money.

 

[Kimo1019]

Do you know how much showing a dog multiple times a year, raising a litter, health testing the bitch and sire, and then paying for all the puppies shots etc cost?
Didnt think so, why dont you go add that shit up the come back and say that breeders are in it for the money.

Calm down high speed, with your "didn't think so attitude". Not all these breeders that charge a lot do all that you mentioned. Do you know what every breeder does? Didn't think so. So yeah they make money. All i was doing was sparking up conversation. Sorry I offended you so badly lmao

 

[Ali132]

Calm down high speed, with your "didn't think so attitude". Not all these breeders that charge a lot do all that you mentioned. Do you know what every breeder does? Didn't think so. So yeah they make money. All i was doing was sparking up conversation. Sorry I offended you so badly lmao

Theres always a few bad apples, but most reputable breeders do.

 

[Kimo1019]

Ok so how much is it to compete honestly I just want to know. If they compete twice a year maybe, shots, vet bills, testing. Does this all add up to let's say 12k?

 

[JJeanae]

Ok so how much is it to compete honestly I just want to know. If they compete twice a year maybe, shots, vet bills, testing. Does this all add up to let's say 12k?

I could imagine on a kennel with a few dogs that are being shown, worked etc., travel expenses, equipment, food, housing, vaccinations/exam per puppy is about $300 here, testing is super expensive. It all adds up.

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[JJeanae]

That said, not every person who charges a lot does all those things. Those people would be considered a byb.

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[Kimo1019]

I guess

 

[Ali132]

That said, not every person who charges a lot does all those things. Those people would be considered a byb.

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Exactly if they don't health test etc they aren't reputable breeders they are bybers. The people who still show and have champions but don't health test are bybers.

Reputable breeder means they DO all that stuff, if they don't they aren't reputable.

 

[kayla baxter]

Breeders that are showing AKC can easily spend $10K between handlers, entry fees, hotels, gas etc for one dog to finish its CH. Hell, I just dropped $350 in entry fees for my rally and obedience dog alone for one trial next month. I've spent at least $500 on my conformation pup for three shows and I owner handle and two shows were local and he still has no points to show for it.

 

[kady05]

Ok so how much is it to compete honestly I just want to know. If they compete twice a year maybe, shots, vet bills, testing. Does this all add up to let's say 12k?

Twice a year?? Hahah. If a breeder is campaigning a specials dog, they're going to be showing that dog almost every weekend, for months at a time. Entry fees (I'm talking AKC here) are usually around $30 a dog per day. Most shows are 3 day shows. So that's $90 just in entry fees. Then you add a handler on top of that, and if your dog is winning, the handler gets paid more.

Just an example, but my friend knows a bitch that is showing currently and is co-owner by 3 people. They EACH put in $50,000 toward her show career.

I have a show dog and I don't want to know how much I've spent on entry fees so far.. I would love to just hire a handler to finish him quickly but I don't have the money for that currently.

So yeah. Good, ethical breeders are certainly not in it for the money.

 

[Kimo1019]

I'm sure there aren't many of those.

 

[DancesWithCurs]

I'm sure there aren't many of those.

You really need to educate yourself rather than making half-baked assumptions off the top of your head.

Reality check: There are HUNDREDS, if not thousands of those

 

[Kimo1019]

Hundreds or a few thousand I don't think that's alot. I'm just saying. I don't need to educate myself. That's my opinion. There are alot that people (I'm sure some of the people on here) that get dogs from "reputable " breeders and they are making money.

 

[Kimo1019]

Actually now I think about it that could be a good number of them lol. But still aloooooot of them that people get many dogs from are makin good money.

 

[DancesWithCurs]

Hundreds or a few thousand I don't think that's alot. I'm just saying. I don't need to educate myself. That's my opinion. There are alot that people (I'm sure some of the people on here) that get dogs from "reputable " breeders and they are making money.

Saying that's my opinion doesn't make it less stupid and doesn't remove the fact that your opinion is still uneducated and based off assumptions. So yes, it's your opinion. But it's still stupid and makes no sense and no one is required to respect it

 

[kady05]

Hundreds or a few thousand I don't think that's alot. I'm just saying. I don't need to educate myself. That's my opinion. There are alot that people (I'm sure some of the people on here) that get dogs from "reputable " breeders and they are making money.

Apparently, you do. If you come onto a forum saying that you don't need any education, you aren't going to be received very well. Who says that?? No matter how "educated" someone may be, there is ALWAYS room to learn. And when you're spouting off things like assuming breeders show their dogs twice a year, and all are in it for the money, it's obvious that you do have a thing or two to learn. Of course there are some that are, but those breeders aren't out there showing and titling their dogs, or health testing. If you have to put the word "reputable" in quotations, then the breeder isn't reputable.

There are thousands of dogs out there that are CH (or GCH) titled that are currently campaigning, so yes, there are quite a few people who put a TON of money into those dogs.

FWIW, I've been offered pups for free from a few different breeders. They definitely aren't making any money by giving puppies away. They're more interested in finding a home that'll give the pup a good home and get out there and show it than getting any money for it.

 

[Kimo1019]

Obviously you two haven't read my other comment saying yeah that's actually a lot. Also I never said all breeders are in it for money. And I didn't mean I don't need anymore education. It's just that if I think that isn't many breeders.