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Are You A Backyard Breeder?

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by Vicki, May 24, 2008.

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  1. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    That depends on the individual. If they aren't taking care of 1 cat, it can smell. I know someone who has had close to 20 cats (multiple litters of kittens) in their house and it didn't smell because they cleaned the litter boxes out 3 times a day. It's not about the number of animals one owns; it's about the care that those animals are provided.
     
  2. Jim

    Jim Good Dog

    Hardjoe, thats like saying I'd hate to live next door to a person who has a few pit bulls. No basis just a load of bollocks.
     
  3. DoomsDayPits

    DoomsDayPits Little Dog

    i agree there needs to be a different term back yard breeders isnt good bc i breed my dogs in the back yard lol. i consider us responsible breeders, we keep most of the pup, possibly give a few to family members, but we end up keeping more lol. not to mention before a pup leaves us there is a contract signed for s/n, thats only pet homes. but i also make them sign a contract that the dog will not be used for any illegal purposes and at anytime they decide the dog is too much for them(which happens in the long run in most cases) the dog is returned to me

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    a doberman and rott were traditionally farm dogs, Working class dogs. just to let you know
     
  4. dmhines

    dmhines Puppy

    I got MEG from a BYB ... $60 at a local flea market. She's a great dog and I have no regrets .....
     
  5. DeeDirtyDawg

    DeeDirtyDawg Good Dog


    NOOOO. Dobermann was CREATED as an attack dog. the only dog (thus far that i've found) bred only with the intention of biting people.
    that's an easy one- you don't know about herr dobermann??

    but you are right about rottweiler-they were farm and draft dogs.

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    it wouldn't matter what bloodlines they are in shelters- because no one can prove it, shelter dogs shouldn't ever be bred.

    APBT shouldn't be a watchdog.
    doesn't matter what you feed him or where his "history" started. the fact that you don't know his history, ped, etc. is the reason you wouldn't breed him, no matter how much you love him... but the fact that he is a pet means it doesn't matter what his bloodline is.
     
  6. DoomsDayPits

    DoomsDayPits Little Dog

    thats extremely odd never been bit by a dobey before plenty of shephards and rotts though never a dobey but then again never been around the american pretty version only german lines before
     
  7. ganja

    ganja Good Dog

    I wouldn't really call you a responsible breeder when you just stated that MOST of the pups get returned to you because you (obviously) failed to properly screen or educate the future owners before selling the pup...
     
  8. bdcraft

    bdcraft Big Dog

    their is a huge different between german lines and american lines because americam dobes are shit
     
  9. DoomsDayPits

    DoomsDayPits Little Dog

    the reason most of them are returned is bc they cant handle game bred dogs. never once had a blue dog returned only koz pups. and usually go to family members. they claim they have had the lines before and still cant handle them and thats even family members. they come off of a catch dog some ppl just cant handle the drive in them.
     
  10. Red_Ballz

    Red_Ballz Puppy

    I really get tired of this crap. The reason that the shelters are full of these dogs is because of the insurance companies making it impossible to own them. If you rent good luck finding someone who will rent to you. Even your home owners association can have rules and not to mention the city or state laws. Many people get the dogs anyway and then have to re home them. Since so many people make this mistake the animals cannot find homes because there is a mass of dogs that need to be re homed due to the owners no longer being able to keep the dogs. Then to top it off most apartments charge 100$ plus 25$ a day each day the dog remains on the property, So the owner is under pressure to get rid of the dog fast. Which is how they end up in the shelter in mass amounts.
    If it was just an over POPULATION problem then there would be no kennels because they wouldn't be able to sell the dogs hence the word the OVERPOPULATION.

    When are we going to address the real issue and stop bitching at people who breed the dogs?
    Bitching at them will not fix the problem.They are breeding because there is a need for pit bull puppies! As long as they can sell the puppies they will never stop. Fixing the insurance issue WILL fix the problem though. If people are free to own they're dogs in peace they will get to keep them and the shelters will stop being flooded and the breeders wont be able to sell dogs anymore because now the owners can finally keep the dogs they have!
     
  11. DeeDirtyDawg

    DeeDirtyDawg Good Dog

    Then get some proof before you sell a dog. What are they returning them for, DA??
    Personally, I've hand picked every home before ever breeding my bitch. I always have to tell a couple people "sorry, no dog for you" because I get more homes than puppies...
    Only ever had one dog come back, and that's because they rehomed it (with my permission) to a guy who used to breed rotties). And I went and took it back because I didn't like how he was raising it. But that's another story
     
  12. Jim

    Jim Good Dog

    Red Ballz- There is no need for 'pit bull' puppies. You could not exterminate them if you spent all day culling. There are too many.
    If it was easy to get insurance or whatever you are saying then people would keep dumping dogs like they are now and go and get a new puppy and start over again.
     
  13. DeeDirtyDawg

    DeeDirtyDawg Good Dog

    They are breeding because there is a DEMAND.
    I can count on my fingers and toes the number of people I have seen that got a pit bull and really didn't NEED one... shouldn't own the breed at all.
    Therre is an overpopulation problem because the dogs get dumped by people who can't handle them, not because of insurance.
     
  14. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    x2

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    The real problem is people getting ahold of dogs who can't handle them. When people are surrendering dogs because they have too much energy, ate a couch, got too big, aren't housebroken, are unabled to be trained, need too much attention, are aggressive to other animals or a number of any other reasons, it has nothing to do with insurance companies.
     
  15. APBTlover09

    APBTlover09 GRCH Dog

    What is your opinion on 'culling'?

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    this needs to be plastered on everything.

    if you can not cull (euthanize/PTS) DO NOT BREED!!
     
  16. DoomsDayPits

    DoomsDayPits Little Dog

    DA??? im guessing that means dog agrression and yes that would be the main reason Koz pups are returned to us. They only go to other people now that have been able to handle his pups previosly now
     
  17. IronChef

    IronChef Big Dog

    Holy shit.


    Then again, given the quality of your breeding program, it is not surprising you try to justify churning out shit-eaters at the alarming rate that you do.


    You are correct, we should "address the real issue": Kennels/breeders with 110+ pound, 12 month old stud dogs with two litters on the way for the month of March. Or perhaps the folks who place these dogs willy-nilly with JQP (Apparently without first consulting their landlord) simply because there is a "need" for pit bull puppies.

    And, in most cases, who the hell sold those fools the damn dog? Oh yeah, half-assed breeders with no regard for the future of the breed.

    And why?

    Oh, right, because there is a "need" :rolleyes:
     
  18. AMEN to that. I spent 30 minutes trying to convince this person I know who has two Pit Bulls and wants to breed them to get a blue color. I couldn't convince them sad to say, but I tried. They are so ignorant and bull headed that no matter what I said, they'll still go ahead and that many more unwanted dogs out there and not to mention that in the town they live right next to is that awful ordinance against Pit Bulls. Oh well, I tried my best. I rescued two Pit Bulls one year apart from each rescue and couldn't get them to the Vet fast enough to be fixed and shots. Why are there so many ignorant people breeding indiscriminately and for what purpose - to get one blue colored dog?
     
  19. APBTlover09

    APBTlover09 GRCH Dog

    IF YOU CAN'T CULL (abort litters or euthanasia) DO NOT BREED!!
     
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  20. DeeDirtyDawg

    DeeDirtyDawg Good Dog

    culling... and only selling to people who ACTUALLY know about APBT...
    who KNOW they are DA.
    but that's of course too hard... might make breeders lose money, right?

    UGH.
     
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