Are we chasing away new members?

[steve07]

Seriously I live in a safe neighborhood like I feel asleep with my garage door open. I have got neighbors. I didn't grow up in a safe neighborhood what's so ever. But times were different then.

 

[Nataliya82]

Seriously I live in a safe neighborhood like I feel asleep with my garage door open. I have got neighbors. I didn't grow up in a safe neighborhood what's so ever. But times were different then.

My neighborhood is pretty safe (I live in the city), but a shitty area is right down the street and all trash comes from there. Feels like nowhere is safe anymore...

 

[Derek1]

The worst part is my dog would happily go with anybody

 

[Nataliya82]

The worst part is my dog would happily go with anybody

I'm pretty sure Loki would as well if they offered cheese...I uploaded some side pics of him, btw, it was hard taking them, omg! He saw me with a phone and was coming up to me to check it out.

 

[steve07]

The worst part is my dog would happily go with anybody

Same here. Damn vicious "Pitbulls" just go with anyone that shows them attention!!!!

 

[Derek1]

Right

 

[Mister]

I call him a pitbull mix to people because majority of his genetics is a pitbull. The main problem behind BSL is shitty owners, millions of them, not the misconception about the breed (that is an effect, not the cause). If there were no awful BYBs out there and people that misuse the dogs, it wouldn't even matter. When people see my dog, they see a pitbull, they are not asking for papers, etc. I had to register him because to the shelter I got him from he was a pitbull, I can't have him offleash because to everyone he is a pitbull, and if he does anything he will be judged as a pitbull. Not to mention that I've had people ask to buy him (yeah, right) and had sketchy people drive by my yard back and forth, so I have to keep an eye on him at all times.
My point is people getting shitty and aggressive on a forum which is supposed to promote the breed, so it's as huge deterrent for everyone. I already get judgmental looks here, I don't need to go on a website which is supposed to promote unity, and get double judged. Someone called my dog "garbage" because he is not papered. I'd love for someone to call my baby "garbage" to my face. It's called Gopitbull, but it is not specified that it's solely for "papered" dogs that are proven to be pureblood pitbulls.

The main problem with bsl started years ago and not with today's shitty owners, but with the humane organisations & animal charitiess that started and spread the original lies about the breed for money through the donations they received when they promoted their stories through the media. The publics and politicians misconception on the breed and subsequent laws all stem from these animal charities money grubbing ways.
If asked outside I call my dogs everything but what they are, good job they have a variety of body shapes or I might get called a liar.

 

[adamwwilkes]

It's an interesting and thought provoking discussion on the bought my wife a puppy thread. Lots of good points that bears a true debate. The forum is a much quieter these days, unlike the lively one I joined 2 years ago. So unless there's a secret forum we weren't invited too, why is it so different? I've seen plenty of fur parents who quickly left, but it was because they thought this was a warm fuzzy place. The know-it-alls that have come here to school us on how to be owners because Great Granddaddy's way is best, usually are dispatched in pretty short order.

It was brought up on that thread we have different types of owners. That's very true, I think. But there's one thing I'd like to bring up that was not discussed. It appears it's not taken into account that many people are not only new to the breed, but have never been on a forum before. Yes, questions get answered, but might it not be better to approach new members in a more conversational manner? Just a thought. It doesn't have to be sugar coated or all smiley faces. If new people felt more included, they might just stick around to get educated. Ok, let's get this started.
:cool::p:rolleyes:o_O...........humor.

One word that had wreaked havoc on forums...FACEBOOK. I love forums, I find them very knowledgeable and interesting. I've been on forums that entail everything from automotive interests to pet interests. Facebook is easier to access as most people are already on there anyway. There are a gazillion Facebook groups on our breed with TONS of "Facebook veterinarians" :-) to offer advise.

 

[steve07]

Forums are much better then Facebook. IMO. On a forum ur talking to real owners that have probably experienced the issues u are going through. Not some Internet know it all. Weather it be cars, pets, anything. Forums are to help the people that are willing to learn

 

[Nataliya82]

The main problem with bsl started years ago and not with today's shitty owners, but with the humane organisations & animal charitiess that started and spread the original lies about the breed for money through the donations they received when they promoted their stories through the media. The publics and politicians misconception on the breed and subsequent laws all stem from these animal charities money grubbing ways.
If asked outside I call my dogs everything but what they are, good job they have a variety of body shapes or I might get called a liar.

I am from Russia, I honestly didn't even hear about the breed until I came here and didn't hear about the stigma until fairly recently. I'm sure I've seen tons of pitbulls but had no idea what they are and wasn't scared of them. In my city there is a big problem with BYBs- my neighbors across the street have 3 untrained unfixed pitbulls, one just had puppies. Two of them have gotten out and tried to attack my pup, whom my bf was walking. Another one ran up to a woman with a kid, and I honestly freaked out cause I thought I was gonna witness something terrible cause the dog was jumping and running around them. My bf grabbed the dog and dragged it to the house by the collar, they didnt say anything and just took the dog in. There are like 20 people in a house, 3 dogs and puppies. I don't know about the media, but I do know that there are irresponsible shitbags living right across and more down the street.

 

[Mister]

The sad thing for the breed is the humaniacs led stories through the media have made the breed very attractive to many of the wrong types of people, who then want, get and breed these dogs for all the wrong reasons.

 

[steve07]

As much as we all try, and all want to help all breeds. You just can't fix stupid!!

 

[Nataliya82]

The sad thing for the breed is the humaniacs led stories through the media have made the breed very attractive to many of the wrong types of people, who then want, get and breed these dogs for all the wrong reasons.

Completely agree. Nowadays every thug in a picture and every crappy rap album has to have meanest looking pitbulls on it. The media doesn't mention millions of other pitbulls that don't maul anyone. I live in Milwaukee, we had over 200 homicides just last year. How many pitbull attacks did we have? None that I heard of. Yet these people are not banned.

 

[pitbulldogs]

Sorry to get off topic! But is this an issue for anyone else? It happens to me when I first bought my house with Blue. I would take him everywhere so people knew I had a "Blue Nose Pitbull" as they all call it. For a week straight at night when I would let Blue out in the yard this car would just come up the street same car every time. With just the parking lights on all slow. And he would park until I let Blue in. sometimes get out of the car and try to look over my fence. I started hiding in the yard when I saw him. He came up to the fence calling Blue one time saying he was gonna take him. I ran up to the fence (wood fence) and shoulder blocked it caught the guy right in the head. He was stunned and bleeding. I put Blue in the house and went to confront the guy. He tried to get in his car I stabbed his tire with my knife and called the cops. We both got charged with a misdemeanor. Know I'm known as the crazy whiteboy with all the tattoos on the corner. Lol. This was all before my wife moved in. I stayed in the house with Blue fixing it and painting it. (Sorry for the rant I just get so aggravated that ppl would actually try and steal a dog) how low can u be

Glad you are ok bro. Gotta ask though, wtf are you charged? Is it a state thing or something? I wonder if it's because you stabbed his tire?

Either way, glad you and the dog are good.

PS: I hate a fawking thief, they are the scum of the earth.

 

[Derek1]

I feel the same way. I've ad my house broken into twice. My dog at the time hiding under the bed when I got home. I didn't care about my stuff was just glad they didn't hurt her. The second time they ran out my front door as I came in the side. They got nothing. It was Christmas night all our stuff was bagged up in our gift bags and left behind. I would have loved to have caught them. My dog now would be happy to meet them and would love to go for a walk when they leave. Sorry for the off topic rant got lost in the story for a sec.

 

[steve07]

Glad you are ok bro. Gotta ask though, wtf are you charged? Is it a state thing or something? I wonder if it's because you stabbed his tire?

It was awhile ago but I will never forget it. Yea it's cuz I stabbed his tire, even though all my pocket knives are legal carrying size. The guy got freaked out and said I could of stabbed him. Luckily enough the cops believed my story becuse the guy lived no where no the area. I just had to do some community service. It worked out though I met a lot of cool people through community service. And the cop and myself became friends cuz he also has a "pit bull".

 

[Nat Ursula]

It was awhile ago but I will never forget it. Yea it's cuz I stabbed his tire, even though all my pocket knives are legal carrying size. The guy got freaked out and said I could of stabbed him. Luckily enough the cops believed my story becuse the guy lived no where no the area. I just had to do some community service. It worked out though I met a lot of cool people through community service. And the cop and myself became friends cuz he also has a "pit bull".

Wow, Steve, I don't think you should have gotten charged with a misdemeanor either. Blue is so forunate to have you.

I feel the same way. I've ad my house broken into twice. My dog at the time hiding under the bed when I got home.

Derek, your pup was so smart to hide under the bed. They always show dogs on home cameras in the Phoenix area while their home is being broken into. They just stand there, scared, watching the people run through their homes. Then the people leave them out in front of the house on the street.

 

[Derek1]

That's what I worry about I can get new stuff. Just don't hurt or take my dog. Rocco would be happy to go for a walk with anyone.

 

[bamaman]

Most dogs , even breeds that are bred to be agressive won't do much and most will quit when the pressure is put on them.Only advantage most are afraid of dogs and dont know ^^^^ what I just said.

 

[steve07]

Wow, Steve, I don't think you should have gotten charged with a misdemeanor either. Blue is so forunate to have you.

Thanks Nat. It's ok it happens, it could of been worse. But it all worked out good.

@Derek1- I totally agree with you. Take anything you want just leave my pups alone!!!!!