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Apology to Breed Ban Enthusiasts

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by maryellen, Oct 17, 2007.

  1. JJeanae

    JJeanae Good Dog

    Forget bathing. Someone might slip and hit their head....

    Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2
     
  2. Bigsambully

    Bigsambully Puppy

    Yes because the fact that the AMERICAN pit bull may be banned in some states is not only laughable but goes to show that it is falling into the wrong hands and util that's tops people's perception of it will not change mine does not need to but yours clearly do why would you object to a licence if it ment that every effort went to ensuring that they went to the right type of owner?
    Maybe drop a few less bombs and that would pay for the required set up for such a scheme government funded ?????

    Here in uk respected breeders of the bull terrier will go thru an awful lot of checks to ensure that their pups go to the right owner infact talking to one breeder he refuses to sell his pups to the majority of people that offer to buy them.
     
  3. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    Punish the deed ... not the breed. What part of that do you not understand? Screw BSL
     
  4. Kamdon

    Kamdon GRCH Dog

    Stick around. You obviously have a lot to learn.
     
  5. Bigsambully

    Bigsambully Puppy

    I have been about bull terrier breeds s all my life know what they are capable of so not an awful lot to Learn again you are failing to answer my simple question what is so ban bout requiring a license? If your are a responsible dog owner it should not be an issue ??? It will help the breed and help change people's perception of pit bulls in general. It's not their ha which is such a problem but their da which is something that can not be trained out and no amount of scosialising will get rid of its not just human attacks that get reported on but dog on dog and a pit wether starting or defending will always get the blame should some one who lets their pit run off the lead have a pit ? A simple question wold be how do you intend to exercise your dog ? Any ndicatin that person will let dig run free or go to a dog park should not be allowed a pit bull IMO
     
  6. Bigsambully

    Bigsambully Puppy

    Mmmm maybe you could read my post I am not saying a license for pits exclusively but for a breed that has the potential to kill kangals dogs rotties etc better these dogs are owned by people that can handle them train them and be the pack leader

    And by the way I am in no way saying a breed should be banned more certain people should be banned from owning a certain breed
     
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  7. 4girlsgiggling

    4girlsgiggling Big Dog

    Can you list all the dog breeds that have seriously hurt, or killed an adult or child? And all the breeds that have the potential to do so?

    Please do, enlighten me, what is it that I do not know about dog breeds. What breeds have not killed or harmed a person?
     
  8. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    If those people who should not be allowed to own a dog are adjudged as such under current laws when they break the law and find themselves in a court of law ... that is punishing the deed ... not the breed.

    We enjoy rights, freedom and liberty her in the U.S. we don't need a bigger government. There is already enough government intrusion in our lives. We don't need a panel of politicians deciding who should own certain dogs based on breed or size or color or what have you, and who should not.

    I'm not going to convince you though and this will end up an argument rather than a discussion because you are incapable of understanding the American way of life. My advice to you is to stick your enthusiasm for change where it might be relevant ... in your own country and at home.
     
  9. 4girlsgiggling

    4girlsgiggling Big Dog

    ^^^ agreed!
    Also, for your research, look up the AMERICAN Bar Association's stance on BSL.
     
  10. Kamdon

    Kamdon GRCH Dog

    This person couldn't name all the breeds that could possibly kill or do serious damage. Wanaa know why? They would have to name every breed that exists. I've seen a douchsund (sp?) rip a woman's face off. Any dog can do damage.

    Answer your question? Okay, i can lie and make you believe I'm the best owner in the world and you would believe me. People, no matter what restriction you put on anything, guns, dogs, cars, blah blah blah, will still get them.

    All it does is put money in the pockets of the people that organized the restriction or bsl.


    And do you think a criminal caress about getting a license? Responsible owners will have to pay for some bullshit that the criminals and bad owners will not even get in the first place
     
  11. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    thats exactly why i dont pay much attention to folks from the UK.
    they just rolled over and gave up many of their rights so they believe the rest of the world should do so as well.
     
  12. Kamdon

    Kamdon GRCH Dog

    Yep, and look how good their economy is doing.....lol
     
  13. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    sub 3" slipjoint pocket knives and airguns for home defense LOLOLOL
     
  14. ssmiechowski

    ssmiechowski Big Dog

    I like this.

    Yeah we should have the govt tell law biding people what type of dog they should have, while criminals just get whatever they want anyways. That makes a lot of sense.
    I may be an immigrant, but there is a reason why I'm an immigrant. I don't want the govt telling me what to do. The more I can avoid that, the better.
    Having a license for a certain type of dog makes public perception even worse. It seems to convey the idea that these dogs are dangerous and therefore owners need to be screened.
    I object to the whole idea. It's just bad all around
     
  15. ssmiechowski

    ssmiechowski Big Dog

    LOL!

    I love my 45 <3..
     
  16. Bigsambully

    Bigsambully Puppy

    Lol and why did the world economy go to pot ? Our economy has suffered and our government is not doing a great job of sorting that out and neither is yours so people in glass houses and such

    You talk about personal freedom and all that crap yet your government is not so bothered about the personal freedoms of citizens of other countries we have just celebrated 60 years of peace within Europe which is a great thing as we have a history of wars over the past few centuries so it's not such a bad thing is it ?

    Anyway yes all dogs can do damage undoubtedly what I am suggesting would cover a wide range of dogs however if done correctly and with the best interest of the dog and enforced then it will surely help.

    Komodon I don't doubt that you are a good owner and would. Have no issue getting such a license however I'm sure you also know or have seen people that own dogs that you believe should not own a dog or needs help understanding what their dog is about

    Yes things are not great here and now people talk about pit bull type dogs as a blanket for banning staffs bull terriers or any dog that kinda of looks like a pitbull I do my best by ensuring my dogs are friendly and have no issue trying my best to educate people as to what the breed I love is about however there are many ore stories that are negative than positive reported in the media as I'm sure is the same in the us

    Now with the threat of bsl looming surely what I propose is a much better than thee alternative of a blanket ban on the dogs, when it should be more the case some people should be banned from owning dogs ?
     
  17. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    And you did it without speaking a single word of German. Imagine that, mate. The blood of Americans helped ensure what freedoms you have and apparently from your tone throughout, that bothers you greatly. Pity.

    In my opinion, your perception is skewed, ideas are flawed and knowledge is lacking. Other than that, brilliant.
     
  18. Bigsambully

    Bigsambully Puppy

    Yes because gun crime is a real issue in the uk when infant there are more gun related deaths in a state that there are over a few years in the uk !!! With new laws being introduced allowing the home owner to protect his home and family recently people have had no charges brought against them for killing an intruder. We just don't need guns to protect ourselves !!!
     
  19. Bigsambully

    Bigsambully Puppy

    Its an idea that could be developed and worked on as i say its an option instead of just banning dogs it would need discussion and to be properly thought out and implemented however is surely better than a blanket ban on a breed ?

    and lets not forget you only got involved in the war after pearl harbour if you understand the second world war it was hitlers decision to head into Russia that brought the war to an end not American involvement.

    Nope I'm certainly happy not to be talking German and understand that the Americans played their part as did many other races from all over the world maybe I'm not coming across as American friendly Which is not my intention I am open to learn new things and ideas from any culture
     
  20. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    And here is one area in which your perception is skewed and by what I have no idea. Likely has something to do with a personal need to vilify certain breeds and some owners.

    Instead of just banning dogs ... how about just not banning dogs period.

    Instead of government control and authoritarianism through legislation, review and licensing which would likely be little more than BSL disguised as a medieval witch hunt comprised of intolerance, generalization and canidae racism ... Punish the deed, not the breed ... or animal size or color.

    Those who shouldn't own dogs are found through the courts in due process as matters of litigation, trial and sentencing. It is incumbent on judges to rule in such matters. It is not, nor should it be the jurisdiction and authority of politicians or their delegated appointees to decide one's freedoms, rights and liberty to own a pet based on nothing more than perception, viewpoint or thought.
     
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