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Apology to Breed Ban Enthusiasts

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by maryellen, Oct 17, 2007.

  1. pookie!

    pookie! GRCH Dog

    UGH I cant stop myself lol Labs?
     
  2. integra973

    integra973 Puppy

    yeaa labs lol i like their goofy attitudes, ever see a pit/lab mix they're awesome!
     
  3. ZorMac

    ZorMac Puppy

    What an awesome post
     
  4. pookie!

    pookie! GRCH Dog

    Sorry, but I hate Labs. Almost as much as I hate ankle biter types. I dont doubt there are some good Labs out there, probably the ones bred for their original purpose, but all the Labs I have ever met have been seriously HA and we have two in my complex and one almost bit my man, and the other is a blind ladies (or close to blind) guide dog, he is DA and HA and has on a few occasions, when being walked on a damn FEXI LEAD MEANT FOR CHIHUAHUA SIZED DOGS by the ladies 20something daughter, tried to bite me and go after Bear, and both would be bad for him and the dumb ass lady lol
    But just my opinion, I am sure there are good ones just that I personally havnt ran into any lol

    Have I ever lol they are everywhere, and anything bully breed in a shelter is automatically a pit bull type/Lab mix. I fondly remember a Lab/APBT mix from when I lived in Arkansas, her name was Pooh Bear and she was one of the coolest, most well behaved, people friendly dogs I have ever met, loved that dog.
     
  5. Celestial88

    Celestial88 Good Dog

    o_O Man you must be in a bad spot for that. I'm not a fan of Labs, although every now and then I see one that is a lovely working dog. But having worked with a ton in the shelter and seeing a lot through dock jumping and other sports I cannot recall one aggressive lab. Not saying they don't exist, but definitely not common. Interesting
     
  6. Jodie

    Jodie Puppy

    That was really touching. As for the bad comment you've been news n media brainwashed. ALL Dogs can bite for reasons,don't single our breed out. They are so loving and loyall,your best friend People like you are closed minded
     
  7. torrieh34

    torrieh34 Puppy

    Brilliant. Absolutely moving article.
     
  8. Very moving post.
    Just wanted to Thank you sincerely,
    to those of you who take the time, and put the effort forward in attempts
    to educate the misinformed. THANK YOU!!!

    I wish people would do (little bit) of research before hurrying to condemn are
    animals.
     
  9. pitbull10309

    pitbull10309 Puppy

    great post!! I totally agree that the people who know the least about them talk the most crap about them.
     
  10. jmsheahan

    jmsheahan Little Dog

    Bravo!! Great post!!! That was amazing!!
     
  11. tessagee84

    tessagee84 Puppy

    GREAT POST! thanks!
     
  12. Love it Love it Love it. wish the truth made a difference when it comes to ignorance. I'm currently opposing BSL where I live. Makes me angry & sad to see so many wonderful dogs hiding like fugitives. In basements, garages and friends houses. Only really feeling safe outside under the cover of darkness. My (what i believe to be) AmStaff is currently waiting DNA results. (banned where i live) If positive, I'll have 5 days to remove him from city limits or he will be seized and destroyed. Can ANYONE help me with BSL? personal experience or advice could really help.
     
  13. mr bullypit

    mr bullypit Puppy

    great reading,sad.
     
  14. Bigsambully

    Bigsambully Puppy

    What makes them and any large powerful dog potentially dangerous is their size and power like most things in life it's a case of the minority giving the majority a bad name I would love a pit bull as I just like the look of them not as much as a bull terrier unfortunately they are banned in ukase I wouldnt risk getting one to have it taken however I would never fully trust it around kids n dogs no matter how well it would be socialised. I have seen a pit bull grow up never say boo to a goose and one day lunge for its owner sat watching tv too unpredictable it was a proper apbt had an experienced owner and no provocation its too easy o blame owners or poor breeding than accept that the breed itself is capable of just flipping and attacking anyone or anything out of the blue . I know that I'm going to get shot down but a ban is not needed but a specific licence to own these dogs or any deemed dangerous that would see prospective owners fully screened as not enough is done to make sure that they don't fall into the wrong hands. That would be. Good start along with people willing to snitch on people that are using their dog to fight. As I have said I would have one I don't think hey are dangerous as people say however they are not as safe as people say also.
     
  15. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    So basically you support BSL? APBTs don't just turn on their owners. I'm sure there are stories of it happening but 9 times out of 10, there are signs. There are behavioral cues that are missed or ignored by their owners and the people around them. If the dog actually does just "flip" out of the blue then that is one dog that was not wired correctly. Some dogs are just bad, regardless of breed.

    You have brought up some extremely ignorant points and I hope you stick around to learn a thing or 2 rather than spread the biased BS you've been fed over the years.
     
  16. adjecyca

    adjecyca Good Dog

    Can you please tell me what you are basing your statements off of
     
  17. Bigsambully

    Bigsambully Puppy

    Ha your name and response are apt.

    I have been around bull terriers and staffs all my life and am certainly not in agreement that they are dangerous and vicious as I have stated its the minority that are giving the majority a ban reputation I am also in agreement that most times it's down to the owner or sometimes in their poor breeding. However that is not always the case as you admit yourself it must have been a bad dog but never shown signs of it for years which was strange. My friend had owned pit bulls for over 20 years all from good lines that didn't have a history of ha. So very unlikely it was down to the owner or breeding.

    I am certainly not in agreement in banning any type of dog pit bull or any other I am against them being put down just for being a pit bull I am also against the being handed out to people who are not appropriate owners for that type of dog or people who wantone just for the sake of owning a pit bull. I believe that any dog that has the capability of seriously hurting killing a child or adult is a dangerous dog or has the potential to do so should require a license that screens the prospective owner and also the dog and its parentage if there was any history of ha You know doing the utmost to ensure there is as much done to ensure the safety of the owner dog and breeds future

    Maybe your blind defence is part of the problem and your response certainly is as ignorant as you believe mine to have been?
     
  18. adjecyca

    adjecyca Good Dog

    No dogs just turn out of the blue there are ALWAYS signs, it's whether or not people choose to listen to those signs/know how to spot the signs.Some dogs just aren't wired right, and it's nobody's fault, and that dog should be pts. But that isn't because of a breed.

    I'm sorry but we've lived with large dogs, and powerful breeds for hundreds of years, i see no reason why we should hand over the rights to owning such dogs to out government, doing so is saying that it is the breed and not irresponsible owners/breeders. No one needs a license to own a dog, the gov. is already too much of a nanny state.
     
  19. Bigsambully

    Bigsambully Puppy

    Yes I'm also not just talking apbts here any dog that has the potential to cause serious harm should not be allowed to be sold given to just anyone. It's the what if factor no one can be 100% that their dog would never attack another dog or even a human for what ever reason. Now if it's primarily down to the owner how a dog turns out then that needs to be kind of regulated. Again I do not feel any breed of dog is dangerous due to breed but more size power etc

    I was horrified in 91 when the dangerous dogs act was announced and even more so when watched a documentary exposé which exposed dog fighting nd people involved nd told how on a raid 150 were seized and PTS just for being pit bulls !!! When boarder collies have the higher number of bites on humans or did when I last looked some years ago it shows that media hype has had a massive part to play in the demonisation of bull terrier breeds in general

    Here in the uk they are now using bull terriers am bull dogs amstaffs staffs as weapons in that they will not go to prison if their dog attacks them even tho they are training them to be human agresive !!!

    Surely it's better if some kind of legislation was in place that did its best to ensure that the owner is responsible for their dogs actions and a license would play a part in that it would need to be enforced tho however it would only be people that want the dogs for the wrong reasons that would miss out any responsible dog owner should be able to aquire the licence easily??
     
  20. Kamdon

    Kamdon GRCH Dog

    Please just stop.

    I don't think people from the UK should own cars.

    That's a silly statement huh? Just like yours and believing that the government should control who does and doesn't own this breed.
     

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