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Animal Cruelty?

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Vicki, May 15, 2011.

  1. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    IDK,I think the real issue here is the man using the pet bird to psychologically terrorize the woman and children. Abusive Psychopath much?
  2. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Yeah, that is what bugs me most about it. Maybe that's why I can't seem to "feel" for the bird, because I keep thinking of the kid.
  3. Lotsapits

    Lotsapits Big Dog

    I think it is plenty cruel. Both to human and bird. I don't have a special affinity for birds but break its wing first? Oh,hell NO! If a cat catches a bird that is one thing, or feeding a mouse to a snake, but why inflict unnecessary pain?
  4. LailaBug

    LailaBug Big Dog

    Well I agree with you guys that the psychological abuse to the child is MUCH worse than the physical abuse done to the bird. So we can agree on that point ;)
  5. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    My guess would be to break the wings to give it to the dog so it doesn't fly away.
  6. destinoscelgo

    destinoscelgo Good Dog

    I dont know...where as I have a very cold spot for birds (as in I hate most of them ) I find it different from feeding a snake mice...only BECAUSE you are doing it for the snake. This guy did it to...from what it seems...to spite his girlfriend wife or lady friend and children. And also...he was drunk so he wasnt in sound mind. its cruel and hes intentionally tormenting people around him...totally different. I wouldnt take my brothers pet mouse one day because he pissed me off and feed it to my snake. Its one thing if its natural reasoning but this...is pretty cruel. Whether it be to the animal...or the people who had to witness it. =/

    ---------- Post added at 10:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:38 PM ----------

    this guy needs to be put away BECAUSE he fed the bird to the dog...but NOT just because it was cruel...mostly because people who usually do that tend to become serial killers....etc
    Child and man bird feeder will need some serious counseling if you ask me...
  7. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Ugh, people always bring up that argument.

    Truth is, the man might be a messed up mo' fo' (as he did it to mess with the kid, or just because he was being a drunk idiot), but some people view small animals are pest, so, to throw them to another animal isn't much, nor does it mean they will go on to kill human beings.

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  8. destinoscelgo

    destinoscelgo Good Dog

    I'm faaaaar from an expert when it comes to the human mind....but the one psychology class I did take, its a proven fact that (some high percentage) will or can become serial killers...or be abusive to other human beings.
  9. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I took a psychology class as well, we also learned that a high number of serial killers were molested as children, but I wouldn't say that if one is molested one is going to be a serial killer. We, also, learned that there is no "one thing" that dictates what will make a Serial Killer, and that is why it is so hard to keep serial killing from happening. They come from all walks of life.
  10. destinoscelgo

    destinoscelgo Good Dog

    Very true. Funny lol im watching CSI right now and its the episode where they say psychopaths have certain "brainwaves" or whatever haha
    In reality people can probably snap at anytime. Like for example...how do we know this kid wont come out of this experience so screwed up HE becomes a serial killer or something?
    It sucks sometimes that we have to wait and tell...
  11. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog

    I'm with you. In my mind what constitutes cruelty lies not in what was actually done; but in who was doing it and more importantly why.

    The fact that it was unnecessary and caused the infliction of pain on another living sentient being to absolutely no needed purpose...makes it cruel...

    and calls into question (in my mind) the morals, ethics and mental stability of the person who would do it.

    I'm not saying they're gonna be a serial killer; but you wanna talk about genetically unsound and not wired right...
  12. rguerra

    rguerra Big Dog

    Yeah, all that serial killer thing is over thinking it too much. My grandparents raised chickens while I was growing up and I would help killing and cleaning them when I was a child and would visit them on weekends. Maybe I'm on my way to becoming a serial killer.
  13. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    I agree that killing animals doesn't make a serial killer in of it self.What I meant by my statement is that it is a common pattern of behavior seen in abusers; To use their victims pets as a way to control and terrorize them.
  14. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I get you now.

    I think this was just a case of a Drunk idiot that is probably an a-hole whether drunk or sober, that needs a good punch in the face.
  15. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    Don't believe anything you hear on "CSI" or like programs.If you like that sort of thing check out "FBI Files" and "Forensic Files" on Tru T.V. channel.I promise you the real stuff is 100x more interesting,plus you learn actual facts.;)
  16. xdogs

    xdogs Good Dog

    CHJ - so, if breaking the bird's bones prior to killing it isn't cruelty(however you mean to do it), is it OK to break a dog's legs prior to euthanizing it? You could say that it would help to keep the dog from running away if your aim is off in the shooting range.
    You don't see a problem with that either?
    What DO you consider cruelty to be?
  17. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    I will find out when I see my ex tomorrow,and see if there is anything more to the story.
  18. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    It might be wrong, but I don't hold birds in the same category as dogs. Probably dumb, but I don't see it as the same. I see them more like mice, like vermin.

    If he broke the birds wings and then just let it live for a while, then I'd be like "yeah, that is pretty darn cruel," but since he broke the wings and then gave it to the dog , which if the dog is anything like mine, it was gone in one crunch (if that's how it went down), then I don't see it as such. Not saying I am right, and you are all wrong, just the way I see it. I can see why much of you would see it as cruel, I, myself, just don't see it as cruel, though, I do see it as unnecessary and stupid.

    I think it's okay to shoot a coyote in the leg to slow it down to let a dog get it in coyote hunting. Some might see that as cruel.

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    Good deal.
  19. BigE_308

    BigE_308 Puppy

    its irresponsible to have a dog with bird my mom had an akita and he would catch birds mid-flight and if any other kind of dog had done this nobody would have cared.
  20. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    plenty of people raise chickens to feed their dogs. they aint serial killers, and their kids dont grow up to be serial killers. if that was the case, i would be one. my old man would snag one up and throw it to a dog once in awhile as a reward for being a good dog...so would i... it was quick death and its cheap healthy food for the dog. so save that crap for someone whos dumb enough to fall for it.....

    back to the topic, yeah it was twisted to pull that shit in front of a kid. thats the only part of this story that even bothers me...its just a bird.

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