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And Another Advocate: Hello!

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by sLeepLess, Oct 29, 2013.

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  1. sLeepLess

    sLeepLess Puppy

    Hello Everyone! <o:p></o:p>

    Needless to say; my name is sLeepLess (no, I don’t sleep much. Yes, that’s my real nickname). I have been a Pit-bull (really don’t like calling them that) advocate since 1996. In 1996 I was invited to a “Dog Showâ€. As it turned out, the “Dog Show†was actually a Dog Fighting arena. Fortunately, it was not your typical “Dog Fighting†event. The dogs were placed in a circle and forced to show aggression towards each other. However, they remained on a leash. The rules were Simple, 1[SUP]st[/SUP] dog to look away, losses. It was more of a stare-down contest than anything else. To be clear, I do not accept this as a form of entertainment, however, I was fortunate to be introduced to our breed in this fashion. It showed me a different side to this dogs that I was ignorant to. I assumed all dog fighting was to the death. I was happy to learn that was not the case. I also assumed these breeds were all about fighting, I learned otherwise.

    While I was there, I saw a few matches before I reached my tolerance. It was “Cool†to see “Dog Fighting†in this manner (I thought at the time). No blood, no biting, no deaths. But what finally made me want to leave was when I stopped looking at the dogs and started looking at the Handlers/Owners. These men and women didn’t “seem†to care about the dogs as much as they did about winning and losing. I realized then, something that would stay with me for my entire life time; dogs are a reflection of their owners. These dogs were doing what they thought their owners wanted of them. I imagined one of them dogs in a different atmosphere. I imagined what one of those dogs could do if their owner put their attention into something like Swimming, fetching, hiking and other outdoor activities that are typical for the “Family Dogâ€. I imaged they would outclass those other dogs in many ways. There and then I set the wheels in motion. I wanted to prove not only to myself, but to everyone around me, these dogs can be so much more than beasts thrown into a ring like savage slave gladiators at the Coliseum.

    Before leaving, I inquired about the possible purchase of a dog. Fate pointed me towards one dog in particular. A Female APBT, 10 Months Old, Dark Brindle, 12X Champion with a bloodline that could be traced 4 Generations (I later meet her Great Great Grand Father). I took her and not only did I change her life, she also changed mine. We were inseparable. I taught her to no longer be aggressive towards other dogs. I taught her to jump over 8ft tall fences, up and over cars, Climb up trees and eventually outrun a few people on bikes. I tried to teach her to swim (which she did) but she didn’t seem to like it. I know now it’s because I went about it wrong. I also taught her to stay put, even if I went out of her line of sight (very impressive). Through her, with her, because of her, I helped change the perception of our breed in numerous amounts of people, for starters; my mother. All she had known of the breed was what the media force feed her. She did not want me to have the dog in the house. She did not want me to have the dog, period. Determined, I slept on a park bench with my dog for a month straight. I would go home to shower (let a friend watch the dog while I did) and change. Then I would return to her and her training. A month later, my mother caved and allowed me to bring her home. Within a month, my mother loved her. She saw what the media fails to show, she saw the love in my dogs eyes.

    I didn’t stop there. I hooked up with other Pit-bull advocates. I helped train approximately 16 Dogs. I went to city hall. I called my congressmen. I donated and volunteered to the Humane Society. I have and would again go to jail for what I believe in. Pit-Bulls are not Vicious and Dangerous. People Are.

    My 1[SUP]st[/SUP] Pit-bull died of old age. She lived to be 14 yrs. old. Our (at this point I was part of a group) 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] was killed by the police when they tried to arrest me for “Loitering†(a cop saw my dog taking a poop and tried to arrest me for not cleaning it up. She was mid-pooping when he tried. When he got my hands behind my back, the leash hit the floor. He shot my dog and claimed the dog tried to attack him). Our third got out of the yard and was never found. The rest lived long and happy lives. We had learned some valuable lessons, the hard way. I moved out of the state to start over. Not with dogs, with my life. I needed to get away before I would have ended up drowned by my over flooding problems.

    Today, all is well. I got my life together, got married and yes, I got another pit. Her name is Ghenova. I adopted her from the Humane Society (no, that wasn’t the name they gave her). She was a Two Month old Red Nose APBT (she’s 3 yrs. old now). I also got my wife a 2 month old Bichon-Shih Tzu mix (her name is Chloe) from a breeder (they get along great. Although, I should note, the Bichon thinks she’s a pit and the pit thinks she’s a Shih Tzu) at the same time. It’s her 1[SUP]st[/SUP] dog. My wife is also an advocate. In fact, she has even gone beyond the call of duty and she is now (was not when we meet) a Vegan. She is against ANY animal cruelty. My mother is also an advocate. She has gone to Pit-Bull events on my behalf. My brother, my sister, my best friend and my co-workers all understand my pleas to prohibit the BSL (Breed Specific Legislation). It is not yet the end, but I am still doing what I set out to do. Ghenova loves to Swim. I smothered her with love (perhaps too much? She doesn’t get enough kisses lmao). She has absolutely no aggression towards other dogs with very few exceptions (the few times we saw her get rattled up next to another dog we left the area and simply took that as a assign that she knew something we didn’t).

    I continue to advocate for our breed anyway and anytime I can (in a more, knowledgeable fashion). We will be Marching next year in Washington (Million Dog March). This is the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] “Forum†I’ve joined. This is the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] time I’ve told my story in a forum. I’m more of a search, find and move on guy. Why I registered? I don’t know. Why I have shared so much? I don’t know. I suppose it is because I had a story to share and felt this was a place I could not only share it, but share it amongst people who give a damn.

    I want to thank everyone who has ever stood up and become a voice for our breed. I always debate with my wife, that 1 person cannot make a difference. Though honestly, that’s just a technicality. Though 1 person cannot make a difference, 1 person can help contribute to the change. A change that eventually, if others continue, can cause a difference. So although I believe 1 person cannot make a difference, I do believe that 1 person can start a change. 1 voice can ignite a revolution. So thank you, for being that voice. And fear not, for as I’m sure you already know, you are not alone. Alone you may not be able to make a difference, but Together, we can.

    Proud Pit-Bull Owner then, now and always,

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  2. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    :blink: Where to even begin...
  3. GoingPostal

    GoingPostal Good Dog

    Um. Welcome to the forum. I think you'll find it very interesting. I think someone better make some popcorn.
  4. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog


    I'll start.

    4 generations is not very far at all to trace a pedigree. Especially if you consider than several APBTs cannot only have their pedigree traced back several 10s of generations but an entire century or more. "4" is impressing no one.

    Saying that, dog aggression is not a fault. It's not a training issue. It's not a love issue. It's not a raising issue. It's a genetic instinct. These dogs that you have "trained aggression out of", if venture to say were not outright aggressive from the beginning. You can't train an APBT to be dog friendly. Just as you cannot train a Lab to not retrieve, a Border Collie to not herd, or a Beagle to not howl. These are genetic instincts bred into dogs for far more generations to be able to just "train it out".
  5. innoko

    innoko Big Dog

    Is this the premise for an 80s movie?

    ....anyway, welcome.
  6. lizzie13

    lizzie13 Good Dog

    Cute dog..welcome! Lol
  7. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    Oh good lord.

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  8. CallSignOWL

    CallSignOWL Good Dog

  9. PocketPal

    PocketPal Big Dog

    I didn't know if this was an excerpt from Good Will (Dog) Hunting or Wayne's (dog) World with the air (guitar) dog fighting and perhaps starting a public cable access channel.

    OP, glad to see your experiences have led you to a place in society. But it is what it is.

  10. sLeepLess

    sLeepLess Puppy

    Where ever you want, Sevensins. I already do, Going Postal, Thanks for the Welcome. 4 Generations for my 1st Pit was amazing _Unoriginal. Few 1st time Pt-Bull owners get a chance to vist a Great Great Grand Parent. I disagree on the "Genetic Instinct" comment. Though this is a Intro thread, so I wont get into it. I firmly believe a Dogs (any) behavior is a product of its Enviorment, Raising and yes, genetics. Though Enviorment and Raising play a larger role. I supose it could be Innoko, Thanks for the Welcome. Thanks Lizzie. God is Good Brindlexpitt.

    Intersting Start for sure.
  11. sLeepLess

    sLeepLess Puppy

    Lol, Thanks CallSignOWL. Experiences led us all to a place, does it not PocketPal? I agree though, It is, what it is.
  12. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    How was that dog bred?

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  13. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    Four generations for your first "pit"? Not if you're trying to pass this dog off as a purebred. This "sport" that you participated in as a spectator? Laughable at best. I doubt any of those dogs were purebred APBT, much less any of the handlers/owners would be able to handle a truly DA dog a similar situation. And then they'd give a champion to some guy who's seen a few matches?? Yea right.

    You can disagree with genetic instinct comments as much as you wish, it doesn't make them any less true and your comments regarding such any less ignorant.
  14. sLeepLess

    sLeepLess Puppy

    What specifically do you want to know Brindlexpitt? Id like to dibate with you _Unoriginal, mainly because i honestly enjoy a good debate. I wont though. Im not sure how you can make the assumption that they were not purebred. Nor how you can make the assumption that they couldnt handle a "truly DA Dog a similar situation". Nor how you determined that they "gave" me a dog. Thats a lot of assumptions on your part. Thanks for your thoughts though. We are all allowed to assume i persume.

    I will, however, get into the genetics discussion with you another time. We can share our findings. Reveal sources and compare. I will gather some evidence you can look at that supports my perspective. For now, I shall step away. I had some free time today I dont normal get. I shall return the next time i do. Cya around.
  15. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    The pedigree. The names of the dogs in the family.

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  16. omgrobyn

    omgrobyn GRCH Dog

    I'm curious about this as well.

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  17. MsAcer

    MsAcer Good Dog

    It's good to have fresh blood :)
  18. Savage Destiny

    Savage Destiny Big Dog

    Because we totally need another "advocate" for the breed who thinks they can LOVE the dog aggression out of them. :no2:
  19. GoingPostal

    GoingPostal Good Dog

    If you think about it, the situation does sound like a dog show, not UKC style obviously but a ring where dogs are facing off or allowed to act out isn't exactly unknown in other registries shows.
  20. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    Another member and I thought it sounded like an ABDA show but the loser looks away and the winner continues the stare? Some weird dominance crap is all that is, not aggression at all.
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