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American Pit Bull Terrier vs Belgian Malinois

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by Alexredpit, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. Alexredpit

    Alexredpit Puppy

    To a person who has an interest in Schutzhund, which would be the most wise investment ?
    For Schutzhund which breed's will win in those points/ excel better at those areas :
    • Intelligence
    • Tenacity
    • Bite work
    • Intimidation Index
  2. DancesWithCurs

    DancesWithCurs Good Dog

    investment wise? Malinois by far, IMO
  3. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Malinois from sport bred lines.
  4. brndnew01

    brndnew01 Little Dog

  5. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    For Schutzhund? ... Guardian and protection breed ... Malinios
  6. bdcraft

    bdcraft Big Dog

    neither dog imo is for a starter person in schutzhund. mal are alot more work than people think. for sport work i would go with the mal. they are about the fastest on all your points. what is intimidation index
  7. Sydney

    Sydney Big Dog

    As someone who loves the apbt breed, its my dog of choice for Schutzhund, but there are much better dogs that are gonna score you more points. If your experienced and ready for it a malinois.

    Also if you do go with an apbt then be sure to find a proper trainer used to training these dogs. It's different then using a herding breed and the right trainer makes all the difference.
  8. monkeys23

    monkeys23 GRCH Dog

    I think that a Belgian Malinois will be waaaaaaaay too much dog for someone just starting out in Schutzhund. Please just no.

    However a nice sport bred APBT (from stock that does Schutzhund...) would serve you well. Schutzhund is not personal protection or police work or ringsport... there is no reason a good APBT shouldn't be able to do extremely well at lower levels. Hell I'd love to see one compete at higher levels too, but its just not that common.

    Another option would be a nice starter GSD from a good breeder that is experienced with matching the person to the dog. Much more suited to someone just starting out than a Malinois!
  9. Team Peanut

    Team Peanut GRCH Dog

    good advice.

    I am thinking if the OP is interested in Schutzhund then they have looked into the breeds and know what they would be getting into. If not, please spend time with knowledgable people that have both those breeds and get a feel for if they would be right for you. Neither breed is for a starter and Mals are more intense then apbt.

    i *thought* my boy was off the wall until i met some Mals. They are amazing but they take a special person to own them :)
  10. monkeys23

    monkeys23 GRCH Dog

    Getting a Mal for a starter Schutzhund dog is like giving your 16 year old who just obtained their driver's license a Ferrari. Yeah thats gonna go well. Just saying! :rolleyes:

    A nice medium drive, well bred working line GSD is probably going to be the most appropriate starter dog for the OP. A good breeder will pick the right pup for them after getting to know them.
  11. Alexredpit

    Alexredpit Puppy

    I thought about getting a GSD but when i watched some videos of GSD in schutzhund, they're dominating the decoy person but Mals have this drive that looks like when they are on schutzhund or French Ring that biting that they do is easy and fun whilst GSD are more of lets end this hard . Correct me if Im wrong.

    ---------- Post added at 09:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:44 PM ----------

    OP's What do you think about Belgian Sheepdog ?
  12. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    I have seen some great video of American Bulldogs doing Schutzhund and some geat video of APBT doing Schutzhund. Heck I have even seen an awesome video of a Jack Russell doing Schutzhund. I'd say get the dog breed that most appeals to you and train it up to participate in the sport for the fun of it.


    If you are really, really, serious about competing and have experience handling high energy, high intelligence, dogs then I'd say go for the Mal.
  13. AmberL

    AmberL Good Dog

    There is a member here that was new to schutzhund in fact I don't think she had done anything in that field she had 2 rescue pit bulls and now has 2 Mals and has done FANTASTIC with them. However, she is VERY VERY serious about competing and has become pretty experienced. So if you are serious and know you can handle a seriously high drive dog..... (I would recommend spending some time with one) then I say go for the Mal.
  14. Ali132

    Ali132 Good Dog

    I would say a mal, if your interested in importing I know someone who has amazing super super drivey mals that excell in shutzhund but they are from somewhere in Europe.
  15. davidfitness83

    davidfitness83 Good Dog

    Mals are the Ferrari of dogs, Ive seen a nice pup out of breeder that competes in French ring and the ddog was off the walls. I am sure they a ton of exercise or they will eat your home or fly over a wall lol
  16. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    i know a couple of people who do it with am bulldogs, looks like theyre great at it too.
  17. Team Peanut

    Team Peanut GRCH Dog

    If its who i think it her dogs are awesome and she does a great job with them and they listen so well to her. I love seeing them :)
  18. Teal

    Teal Krypto Super Dog Premium Member

    I don't have anything different to add! Mals are seriously intense dogs... but if you can handle one, a TON of fun to work with!

    But I like MJJean's point the best! If you're just looking to start out in Schutzhund, unless you're wanting to dedicate to an expensive, high level-capable dog... get a dog YOU like, and train away!
  19. nc_pitbullmommy

    nc_pitbullmommy Good Dog

    Don't know if anyone else mentioned the breed but Dobermans are good for SchH too and are a fairly good breed choice for a beginner if you get a good breeder that can match the right dog with the right owner. Just make sure the breeder competes and titles in the sport....not just someone that has imported some Euro dogs and automatically thinks that makes them working dogs.

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    Hahahah I love that video!! If Jack Russells were the size of APBTs they would be scary as hell!! :whew:
  20. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    This is true IF you go to a working breeder. Me, I prefer the short furred dogs because of grooming, so I thought about buying an AB instead of a GSD or Mal and maybe trying Sch. I didn't go to a working breeder and ended up with a great dog that I adore, but suited for the sport he is not!

    Also, there was a lot of breed prejudice here. I talked to a few clubs about evaluating Ike to see if he was suitable for training. Most of them flat out refused because he wasn't a "traditional" Sch breed. The nearest club I found willing to train an AB was in Ohio and a couple hour drive away. I was willing anyways, but Ike just didn't have the temperament for it. He's a relatively lazy, not driven, puss.

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