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Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by 3dogs, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. 3dogs

    3dogs Little Dog

    I love this breed at least as much as everyone else here, but I am a bit frustrated by the breed ambassadors that I am seeing. I work with a rescue that campaigns their "pit bull ambassadors" by posting photos and videos of adult pit-bull-type dogs sharing their beds and rawhides with puppies and laying in piles of dogs at doggy day care.

    I have actually gone with them while they pulled shelter dogs. They will only take in pit bull type dogs that show absolutely no tendencies towards animal/dog aggression.

    I understand what they are trying to do, but is this a responsible notion to promote: That pit bulls are just as safe with other dogs as any other breed? Are they doing the breed a favor by showing them in a positive light or are they setting up the breed to fail by exporting a wildly inaccurate picture of what the breed really is?
  2. Pulverizer

    Pulverizer Puppy

    Yeah, you know what the answer is here. These are great dogs, but they do tend towards animal aggression. That's a fact and pretending that it isn't doesn't help the breed.
  3. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    tricky question. i do alotta things i would NEVER recommend a newb do, and will be the first to tell you its risky, but ive got many years with these dogs and i can read the dogs i own like a book. that plus the fact that i have no fear of breaking up a scrap....most people shit their pants when they see em go at it for the first time.

    we have a "rescue" here (my hometown) that is on FB and is always advertising their young adults as "great with other dogs" and "loves all animals" and considering the fact that they end up in first time homes, i call em on it all the time. im sure i look like a jackass, but ive explained to them a million times that you dont know how a dog is gonna turn out until it has matured. my lengthy rants fall on deaf ears.

    and dont get me started on these idiots calling em APBTs because they look like one....whatever that means. whenever i see em claiming one to be an APBT i always hit em with "hows it bred?" again...deaf ears
  4. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog


    I've gotten to the point where I no longer have affiliations with the rescues in my area because they refuse to acknowledge what I've come to learn as fact. All the stupid pics on Facebook that have a couple dogs laying together with a caption about how you raise them or these dogs are just like other dogs.

    Well they're not, and the sooner people realize that, perhaps the sooner they'll stop owning them and treating them like other dogs. All dogs were not created the same; if they were, we wouldn't have a need for separate breeds.
  5. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    last time i had a "discussion" with someone who believed this i told them to take the same two dogs into a room, drop a single piece of raw chicken on the floor and then get back to me when its all over. sure it wasnt nice, and if my advice was taken they very well could have ended up with zero dogs, but i cant stand the whole "how you raise em" shit.
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  6. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    It's a constant battle. One that I need to completely withdraw myself from often before I go crazy repeating myself.
  7. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    aint that the truth. at times im like a broken record and im sure people just think im an asshole.
    i love it when im accused of "making the breed look bad"
  8. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    How did "rescues" come to be authorities of any kind on the breed anyway?

    These days, in general, "rescues" are some of the worst places to go for any information AT ALL on the breed.

  9. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog

    because Carla...they have had so much experience with dogs boxed up in kennels all day :no2:
  10. Joey&Zoey

    Joey&Zoey Good Dog

    I truly, truly, truly, have to refrain myself the longer the days go by at this point. From even bringing fourth my attention span, to draw an awareness that the "advocate/ambassador" groups/rescues for the breed, showcase and provide nothing but BS lies/ignorance/disgrace to the already completely misinformed population. I just can't. Then you have all of those wired fur mommy individuals, passing every thing along to uncle, cousin, neighbor, store associate, stranger at the park etc.

    I think if given the chance, a lot of the idiotic people I wasted my breath upon, in attempt to help them realize that they've been robbed of common sense/facts/truth, would love to see my dog taken away from me and placed in a home where she can be treated like "any other dog" because, as it's common knowledge, "it's all in how you raise them!". As I am just a "horrible pit bull owner that helps keep the breed well known for it's bad reputation", when all was said and done.

    SO, how does that help the breed (and those of us up against the constant battle in complete TRUTH) in any light, at the end of the day? It's always nothing but a setup for failure at it's best that has only taught me that my intolerance could stretch, this far.
  11. Rodeo

    Rodeo Little Dog

    I've heard that so many times but I'd rather scare someone away with the truth than sugar coat and tell straight up lies just to make the breed look "better" to certain crowds.
  12. Swolf

    Swolf Little Dog

    The problem is that by that point they are no longer listening and run right back to the "they're labs really!" crowd.
    I've talked about genetic animal aggression until I was blue in the face but that doesn't seem to change some people's mind.
    I think the truth needs to be out there without apologies but to get it to the masses a little sugar coating might be required (in my personal opinion).

    On the opposite side I was talking to a trainer that specializes in APBTs that suggested taking my dog to a dog park (I'm sure the look on my face was priceless) and when I asked "Why would you expect an American Pit Bull Terrier not to fight?" they said I needed to read the history of the breed and further went on to explain they were bred for dog fights and thus should never be human aggressive due to the breeding so on and so forth (which is true but of course wasn't my question at all)... Some people hear only what they want to hear on either side of the fence.
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  13. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ Good Dog

    Maybe he said park, and you only heard dog park.lol.

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