Pit Bull Chat Forum

Welcome to Pit Bull Chat!

We are a diverse group of Pit Bull enthusiasts devoted to the preservation of the American Pit Bull Terrier.

Our educational and informational discussion forum about the American Pit Bull Terrier and all other bull breeds is a venue for members to discuss topics, share ideas and come together with the common goal to preserve and promote our canine breed of choice.

Here you will find discussions on topics concerning health, training, events, rescue, breed specific legislation and history. We are the premier forum for America’s dog, The American Pit Bull Terrier.

We welcome you and invite you to join our family.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us

  • Welcome back!

    We decided to spruce things up and fix some things under the hood. If you notice any issues, feel free to contact us as we're sure there are a few things here or there that we might have missed in our upgrade.

Always Expect a Bulldog To Fight

shotgun_wg

Little Dog
I can tell u this. If a bulldog latches down with a sure nuff bite. A gonna hold till the end bite. A break stick is by far the most humane method of releasing that bite.


Shotgun
Arkansas
 

DancesWithCurs

Good Dog
No I did not "read it" the pit I have now is not my first pit. Its just been a while. I have encountered dog on dog action hell ive encountered pit on pit action and handled it fine WITHOUT a breaking stick. And I wasn't trying to "puff my chest out" on anything. And you are the one reading out of context because I never said that the reason why they are illegal was bc they can break a dogs jaw. I said they are illegal in some states AND (not because) they can break a dogs jaw. And I NEVER claimed to know anything about breaking sticks other than that they were illegal. Learn to read. So if you are done TRYING to bully me over the internet (which is stupid) I am getting my dog whom will not be having a breaking stick used on him and going to cuddle up with him and go to bed. Goodnight.

Sent from my SCH-S968C using Tapatalk
If you think that blunt honesty and concern for your animal is someone trying to bully you, it's going to be a bumpy ride for you. And if you think that A)A breakstick can break a dog's jaw or that B) they are somehow a bad thing to use on your dog, you're not nearly as versed as you thought you were. If a bulldog bites something and he feels like holding on, no amount of pulling or commands is going to make him let go and nothing physical you could think to do will be safer or quicker than a breakstick.

But it's at this point where it's hard to worry about the well-being of a dog that's not mine. Have fun being irresponsible
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Ashton

Puppy
No u weren't being a blunt and honest person you were trying to puff out your chest and show how much u know. And I just happened to be the target. And I'm not irresponsible and who are you to judge me as a pet owner? You know nothing about me. And if you think its irresponsible not to have a breaking stick then that's your opinion. You are intitled to your own opinion. Mine is different. That doesn't make u any more right than it does me.

Sent from my SCH-S968C using Tapatalk
 

Ashton

Puppy
Gladly. I'm just trying to go to bed and cuddle with my pup. But this keeps blowing my phone up.

Sent from my SCH-S968C using Tapatalk
 

DancesWithCurs

Good Dog
When your opinion can cost the life of not only your dog, but someone else's dog and your attitude is that it's just your opinion yes, I'm going to call it irresponsible. Just like I'd call someone who is of the opinion that taking a pit bull to a dog park or doggy daycare is a good idea irresponsible. You're welcome not to like it, but I'm more worried about the breed, not your feelings. You cannot train out or mollycuddle out dog aggression, which was my point. As for breaksticks, they are a thing that is better to have and not need than need and not have, but I do not consider it a gamebreaker in most cases. You missed the point entirely
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Ashton

Puppy
A dog no matter the breed can be taught if given the time taken up with it. And yes I would agree that taking a pit to the dog park would be a wrong decision. But until you know me personally please don't call me irresponsible. I haven't done anything to warrant that. And I never wanted you to be worried about my pup or my feelings. So please just leave me alone.

Sent from my SCH-S968C using Tapatalk
 

DancesWithCurs

Good Dog
A dog no matter the breed can be taught if given the time taken up with it
Sent from my SCH-S968C using Tapatalk

Taught? Of course. I just got done training a pit bull to walk on it's front paws and backflip on command last month. Taught not to be dog aggressive and not to fight if that's what they feel should be going down? No. A bulldog who feels they have sufficient reason to fight is going to do so, regardless of training
 

Ashton

Puppy
And that's your opinion. I feel otherwise. Now please leave me alone. I'm tired I want to go to bed. The only reason I keep responding is because I hate to ignore people. I want them to know that I acknowledge what they said. Goodnight, good morning whatever suits your needs.

Sent from my SCH-S968C using Tapatalk
 

DancesWithCurs

Good Dog
You do realize I'm not holding your hand to the phone and forcing you reply to anything and you can stop posting at literally anytime, right? If you don't feel to respond, just...don't respond
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Ashton

Puppy
Yea well respect for individuals compels me. But like I said. Goonight, goodmorning whatever suits your needs. Goodbye and good luck. No hard feelings.

Sent from my SCH-S968C using Tapatalk
 

SherryB

Little Dog
Without going through all 17 pages of this post.... is there info here about what IS the proper way to break up a dog fight, if one or more is a pitbull/bully breed? Hubby has Cesar on the brain (grab by back legs) which I know is stated here as a bad idea. Straddle dog, get by collar, use a break stick? Is that about right? If not already done, it might be good to have a sticky with info on only how to break up a dog fight.

Does anybody know if pepper spray-even if as strong as bear spray--does any good?
 

SherryB

Little Dog
Thank you unoriginal. I am trying to envision this for myself. So, in all likelihood the dog that my dog would get into a fight with would not be another pitbull type. And, I wouldn't have a convenient place to hook the other dog's leash and it wouldn't even be my dog. So, I would be hoping the other dog owner would get a hold of their dog and I would hope they would keep hold of it while I use a break stick on my dog since it would be the one holding on.

Is that about right? And if the other dog was not on a leash, what then?
 

ColbyDogs

Big Dog
That video is helpful but do make note, NEVER EVER put your hand near the dogs mouth like that guy did on the first break. Always straddle and grab the collar first to control its head and body before you apply the break stick. I also strongly recommend a good sturdy 1/12-2" wide leather BUCKLED collar. They do not tear nor do they unclip. If for some reason the dog is not collared, grab the dog by the scruff of its neck, then straddle and apply the break stick. In a pinch, if no break stick is on hand, and only in an emergency, with a strong leather collar, put your hand in the collar and twist cutting down on the dogs ventilation . Oxygen deprivation is a last resort only, never to be used as a go to option.
 

ColbyDogs

Big Dog
Reasons why I do not walk my dogs out in public. Walking a dog is like leaving the house with a baby.....Carry your supplies ! A spare leash and or a belt. A nice walking stick is also a nice tool to carry as well. And you can never rely on the other dog owner, most are pretty useless when a dog fight breaks out. Do not panic and take control....you tell the other owner what to do. Let them be the one to get bit by their own dog, not you. Most other breeds are snappers, and most other breeds quit quickly after getting beat on. And if not, that's where that walking stick comes in handy and so does your feet......kick the cur away.
 

Michele

Chi Super Dog
Administrator
A dog no matter the breed can be taught if given the time taken up with it. And yes I would agree that taking a pit to the dog park would be a wrong decision. But until you know me personally please don't call me irresponsible. I haven't done anything to warrant that. And I never wanted you to be worried about my pup or my feelings. So please just leave me alone.

Sent from my SCH-S968C using Tapatalk

You can teach dogs a lot of things, but you cannot teach out a genetic trait. You can read the information given in this thread and learn from it or not, the choice is yours.

I have encountered dog on dog action hell ive encountered pit on pit action and handled it fine WITHOUT a breaking stick.

How did you handle this^^
 
Last edited by a moderator:
This is more for those new to the breed, but everyone can benefit from a little reminder now and again. If there's one thing you can count on, it's that 2 Bulldogs will eventually get into a fight for some reason or another. . .

Moral:
Always expect something to happen, and it will usually happen over the stupidest things, like the sound of dogs on a TV show, even if it has never happened before in 9 months or 9 years, IT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN. If it happens, be calm, have a plan, and have and know how to use a breakstick. If you're prepared and expecting it, damage will usually be minimal, if you're not, it can be deadly..

Thank you for having the time to share this incident with Bella and Whiskey, totally an eye-opener to those who always thought that dogs in the same house wouldn't do any harmful things. But right here in your moral post, always expect something to happen or say always be alert and be prepared.
 
It's in the dogs genetic trait to catch fleeing cats too, but you CAN train him not to chase. Always, like every time I tell my dog to stop whatever he is doing he does. It make take more than one command to do so if the dog is fully engaged. In his excitement he may not hear me the first time but once the hat comes off he stops. Every dog regardless of breed is different just like people. Some dogs are easier to train than others. But expecting a bull dog to fight another bull dog raises a red flag when it comes to proper training. The best way to avoid confrontation is to avoid unknown bull dogs in the dog park. If I feel my dog needs more run loose time I take him to the woods.
Dogs are social animals and regardless of breed like to play. I've found several non bull dogs in my neighborhood for my dog to play with that have great temperament just like my bull dog. When the dogs show signs of getting tired ( usually the other dog) it's time to end the play date. Or in my case, since my dog can play all day, I get him together with other dogs he gets along with. In cooler weather, it is common that my dog will play with 3, 4 or more dogs a day time permitting. Expecting a confrontation means you aren't doing something right. Expecting a strange dog to act up is a reasonable expectation however, keeping in mind that even tho our bull dog didn't start the dust up he won't likely back down either. These are situations that can be avoided by staying away from places where there are strange dogs.